Did Joe DePete retire? (FedEx)
 

Word from the DL MEC meeting is that Joe DePete retired from FDX on Dec 31 and deferred his pension until the end of his ALPA President term, thus eventually collecting 2 pensions... Can anyone speak to any validity of this?

I think the past two ALPA Presidents took LOAs from Delta while they were in office. How old is DePete? 61+?

Nice straw man. LOA = retirement in your world?

It means for some reason all three of the last three ALPA Presidents needed to separate themselves from their employer for some reason. All the ALPA/union haters might wait to see if there is a reasonable explanation that is most likely related to the ALPA pension plan infall three cases.

Fire - ready - aim.

I sat with Joe DePete and his wife at the BOD for 20 minutes. He gave me and countless others his word, if elected he would not retire from FedEx.

He played every ALPA Pilot like a fool and is now double dipping. In my opinion, the only reason he ran.

The ultimate greedy politician.

He needs to resign or be recalled.

I am curious. Why did the subject even come up?

The better question is why are the rules written so that you get two pensions if you do what he supposedly did.

If I retired from the Navy at 15 years and left for Delta, I'm not getting my Navy retirement. I know he's probably vested in FedEx at this point, but I'm not getting why there are two pensions.

Is Lee Moak back at Delta flying the line?

-UA

Because despite what ALPA wants you to believe it isn’t an organization made up of top down volunteers. Anyone at the local rep level and higher, especially ALPA national, is anything but a volunteer. They are highly compensated and ALPA National leadership has availed itself to a very nice benefits package.

Just ask Lee Moak.

-UA

I find that hard to believe, I gave Joe a recurrent event not too long ago and he showed up engaged and was current in the aircraft. I have a hard time believing he would harm anyone. BTW during that time some of our elected officers were NOQ due to recency but not Joe.

Wow! If that is the case then I wonder why so few pilots want any of those glorious jobs. Oh that's right. Because that is not the case and you completely full of shiite.

DePete now makes $526,000 plus perks. Plus deferring FedEx DB which he will collect lump sum at the end of his term.

If you don’t think the guys at ALPA National are not pigs at the trough, you are not paying attention.

we don’t have a lump sum option

Multiple people run for all of those jobs.

-UA

LEC reps are not highly compensated. They are compensated for the trips they are removed from to attend MEC meetings.

As for the ALPA president, regardless of whether any of this is true or not, I’ll withhold judgement until after his term is over to see what he actually accomplishes. If he has a legal way to get more compensation, then good for him. I’ll still just judge him by what he actually does as I would judge the guy who wants to be a billionaire by coming up with a cure for cancer. It’s not the motivation, it’s the results that matter to me.

Not hard to believe. And in fact true. He said this many many times throughout BOD.

100% accurate

February 1, 2019

I am writing because I know there have been some questions about my retirement from FedEx, and I want you to know my thinking as I made this difficult decision.

Flying is my passion, and I’m proud to have had the honor of being a Marine aviator, a commercial passenger pilot, and an air cargo pilot. During my more than 30 years of flying, I always felt that my colleagues were more than coworkers; they always were—and always will be—friends and family.

As I wrestled with the decision to retire, I had to take into account the fact that I will reach the FAA mandatory retirement age of 65 during the spring of the final year of my term as President and would not be able to return to line flying when my Presidency ends. In addition, it became clear that there were practical impediments to my staying current for the next three years. As a result, I came to the conclusion that retiring from FedEx now would allow me to turn all of my energies without distraction toward fulfilling my role as your President and would be the most appropriate course to best represent all ALPA members. Again, this was not an easy decision.

As ALPA President, I will remain exclusively devoted to representing all ALPA line pilots’ views, and achieving the goals of our union’s pilot-driven strategic plan. For the next four years, I intend to keep as my sole focus making ALPA stronger, leaner, and more responsive, using my lifetime experience as a pilot to guide my actions and my decisions.

Just to be clear, I will not receive further airline income and will not be eligible for any further accruals into any FedEx defined contribution or defined benefit retirement plan. Further, as of the date of my retirement, I have been voluntarily forgoing any distributions from any FedEx retirement plan and will continue to do so while I hold the office of ALPA President.

Article X, Section 1.A of ALPA’s Constitution and By-Laws makes clear that retirement is not an eligibility bar or concern.

As your President, I am solely invested in ALPA. Now that I’m retired from FedEx, I wanted to make it clear that I am unencumbered by any perceived loyalty to my past employer and owe my entire allegiance to this organization and its goals, and to the interests of the entire ALPA membership—not just to FedEx or any other carrier or a specific group of pilots. For example, I am going to be wholly committed to our efforts to promote the piloting profession’s agenda and protect, defend, and advance the safety and security of our industry and the careers of our pilots, whether it be with regard to the threat posed by the ME3 subsidized carriers, atypical employment arrangements, or any of the other serious challenges we face as a profession.

As your President, I have a singular focus and standard—doing what is right by all of the pilots I represent, period.
In solidarity,


Capt. Joe DePete
ALPA President

Actually that is often not the case and most pilots have to be convince into running as it is a huge personal sacrifice.

Wrong. Most are part of an inside group who spend the majority of their career in some type of ALPA position.

-UA

Great. Just when fdx pilots feel they have a friend at national he pulls this stunt, disavowing allegiance to his airline and committing to all of alpa airlines. I don’t know about you other fdx guys, but I believe we’ve earned our bias and are way overdue. Thanks Joe. Next time I’m in Louisville I’m going max reverse at five a.m.

You might consider that things are a bit different at other airlines than your own. UA has had several run unopposed in the last election cycle alone and I would imagine it is even more so at smaller airlines. But if you think it is such a great deal then by all means get out of the cheap seats and put your name on the next ballot possible.

If we had wanted to elect a retired FedEx pilot it would have been Chuck Dyer.

All ALPA Natl Officers represent the entire Association not just their own airline

Joe represents primarily Joe.

It came up in the Delta forum because they're still sore that not only did they not keep the ALPA President seat with a Delta pilot, they got completely shut out of the National Officer slate.

They were so sure the President should be a Delta pilot, that 2 Delta guys ran against each other, ballot after ballot after unsuccessful ballot. Oh, well, some folks aren't very good with math.


ALPA President is a full-time job. I'd rather he not have an obligation to remain current, much less proficient at flying. Flying, on the other hand, also requires a substantial commitment of time and energy to remain current, much less proficient. I'd rather not fly with someone who is only barely legal to fly because they're distracted by another full-time job. There are very good reasons the ALPA President is not required to be a current pilot.

Also, I understand that due to the specifics of our retirement arrangements and the timing of regulated age and the end of his term, Joe would have had to forgo a year's worth of sick bank and two year's worth of vacation bank, had he continued to be employed without working for his employer. That would amount to a very substantial monetary penalty.


Finally, anybody who thinks these guys seek the jobs because of the money should immediately surrender their medical certificate and seek the services of a professional counselor.



Put the spears away, folks. What's that phrase the kids use theses days? Haterz gonna hate.






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I don't think you understand what a straw man is.






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Care to sign your name to the libel? Maybe you'd prefer to wait until the court order for APC to reveal your identity?


Go for it. The procedure is in the Constitution & By-Laws. Good luck. Oh, and if you need help with the math, ... oh, never mind.






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Since one doesn't get a Navy retirement at 15 years, you're right. But if a guy went for 20 and started receiving a Navy retirement, he'd continue to get Navy retirement checks every month, even if he was subsequently hired by Delta.


There aren't. He's entitled to his airline pension, and his ALPA salary.


Hmm, could there be some airline retirement envy going on here?






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Same question about Helling.

Just curious.






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Hey, why don't you explain how local reps are highly compensated. My local rep job happens to be open right now. Can I get rich?






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Who is this "we" to whom you refer? I seem to recall there are far more voices than just your own.

(I also seem to recall a far more qualified retired FedEx pilot, but that's another subject.)



Funny how that only applies if the President is a Delta guy.




Do you have anything resembling facts to support that accusation, or do we file this away with, "Your mama wears army boots"?






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Oh good, then in discovery they can view records of when he notified the Comany of his intent to retire as well as those formal requests to fly while on a unpaid leave. 😳

Dezi, the EA, went right to Delta management, but that is OK with many of these same folks. What is his new title again?

....wow, TonyC......rant much?

just a suggestion......you advise others they may need professional help......may want to look into that yourself.......:rolleyes:

This is all interesting.

Does the FEDEX DB plan have allow a lump sum?

Some have said yes, another no. What is the truth?

NO........

There is no lump sum option but deferring the DB plan will increase the monthly benefit, pretty significantly I believe.

Maybe the DL guys so upset by this should hire the Moak Group to represent them. Moak isn’t flying the line at Delta and never will again so he should have plenty time to rep them for the right price of course.

-UA

I didn’t say the local reps get “rich”.
I said they are highly compensated. They aren’t leaving money on the table. That being said, the reps at Purple spend more time on the line than the reps at any other ALPA airline I’ve worked for and I’ve worked for 4 ALPA airlines.

-UA

I just perused your benefits book. Looks like after hitting 62, deferring is the smart play, both in terms of benefit increase and taxes, if you have the means to do that. With the ALPA salary, I’d assume so.

BTW, you FEDEX guys have a nice benefit package. Better than us at United.

For now....

That is not entirely accurate. Local Reps are volunteers. The only compensation they get is trip removal pay to attend MEC meetings or other MEC sanctioned events & training. They do not get anything for their work at the LEC level. They get a small stipend to cover expenses associated with running their LEC.