Let the UAL spin begin!
07-30-2008 | 02:50 PM
#11
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Sorry but ALPA has screwed a lot of my buddies at other airlines. I will never support ALPA, but I do support pilots. The best way to support other pilots is to kick ALPA out. They dont care about the little people, they only care about more members equalling more dues collected. I work at a non union carrier and I hope we never get a union. Unions were born long ago and are no longer needed as they are antiquated and corrupted, just say no.
You say you support pilots, but not unions. Tell me, how are you supporting me in my time of need? With kind words?
07-30-2008 | 02:54 PM
#12
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Allow me to point out the following at this juncture:
Without the ramp, the airplanes don't fly.
Without flight attendants, the airplanes don't fly.
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
Without customer service and agents, the airplanes might fly, but there'd be no passengers ( = no revenue).
(*cue "This Bud's For You" music*)
And so forth. (We even need management. Maybe not the current management, but some form of management.)
Moving an airliner is a team effort. I wish that the hardliners on ALL sides would stop hardlining and refocus on the core business, which is moving people from A to B faster than they can drive.
Without the ramp, the airplanes don't fly.
Without flight attendants, the airplanes don't fly.
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
Without customer service and agents, the airplanes might fly, but there'd be no passengers ( = no revenue).
(*cue "This Bud's For You" music*)
And so forth. (We even need management. Maybe not the current management, but some form of management.)
Moving an airliner is a team effort. I wish that the hardliners on ALL sides would stop hardlining and refocus on the core business, which is moving people from A to B faster than they can drive.
07-30-2008 | 03:02 PM
#13
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[quote=SomedayRJ;436000]Allow me to point out the following at this juncture:
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
RJ,
Airline History 101
NWA proved that theory to be wrong... they busted the MX union and had replacements trained and ready to go the day mechanics had gone on strike. The rest is history...and the airline MX operations are just fine today.
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
RJ,
Airline History 101
NWA proved that theory to be wrong... they busted the MX union and had replacements trained and ready to go the day mechanics had gone on strike. The rest is history...and the airline MX operations are just fine today.
07-30-2008 | 04:09 PM
#14
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From: CRJ 200/700 FO
Us being regional pilots, how would you EVER support us?
07-30-2008 | 04:21 PM
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Cancelling flights? Using alot of reserves? Needing off duty pilots to pick up extra assignments?
Sounds like a staffing shortage to me, yet they are going to lay off how many hundreds of pilots?
Sounds like a staffing shortage to me, yet they are going to lay off how many hundreds of pilots?
!!!!
07-30-2008 | 04:29 PM
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From: 737 Capt
As I see it, the United management has taken every opportunity, literally every single one, to abuse the contract they signed with the pilots to the fullest extent possible without incarceration. It takes a lot of nerve for them to cry about pilots abusing contract provisions. Apparently they don't teach MBAs that you reap what you sow.
07-30-2008 | 04:33 PM
#19
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Allow me to point out the following at this juncture:
Without the ramp, the airplanes don't fly.
Without flight attendants, the airplanes don't fly.
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
Without customer service and agents, the airplanes might fly, but there'd be no passengers ( = no revenue).
(*cue "This Bud's For You" music*)
And so forth. (We even need management. Maybe not the current management, but some form of management.)
Moving an airliner is a team effort. I wish that the hardliners on ALL sides would stop hardlining and refocus on the core business, which is moving people from A to B faster than they can drive.
Without the ramp, the airplanes don't fly.
Without flight attendants, the airplanes don't fly.
Without mechanics, airplanes might fly, but they sure won't fly very well.
Without customer service and agents, the airplanes might fly, but there'd be no passengers ( = no revenue).
(*cue "This Bud's For You" music*)
And so forth. (We even need management. Maybe not the current management, but some form of management.)
Moving an airliner is a team effort. I wish that the hardliners on ALL sides would stop hardlining and refocus on the core business, which is moving people from A to B faster than they can drive.
07-30-2008 | 04:35 PM
#20
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From: 737 Capt
Or maybe it's because the vast majority of pilots on the 737 and A320 are already involuntarily scheduled to 95 hours every month. Every summer month has been 11 days off. How can you pick up a trip with a schedule like that?
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