Let the UAL spin begin!
#22
Sure would be nice to see ALPA use the thousands of dollars I/we pay them to take a stand and fight for the pilots they represent in order to resolve the sick time problems at all airlines. If I'm sick too much I have to get a doctor's note. If I'm sick at the wrong time, I have to get a doctor's note. Haven't been treated like that since high school. Airline management needs to wake up and realize that truly successful companies work with their employees to boost moral and productivity. Being treated like a child really doesn't help. This is just one example of something that ALPA can and should represent not just UAL pilots, but all pilots to change how sick time is treated by managements at all airlines. It's not sick time abuse if you have earned/accrued it. It is the employees' choice in how to use that time until it runs out. I'm sure Tilton doesn't need a doctor's note when he gets a tummy ache too close to his vacation time!
#23
#25
Sorry but ALPA has screwed a lot of my buddies at other airlines. I will never support ALPA, but I do support pilots. The best way to support other pilots is to kick ALPA out. They dont care about the little people, they only care about more members equalling more dues collected. I work at a non union carrier and I hope we never get a union. Unions were born long ago and are no longer needed as they are antiquated and corrupted, just say no.
Don't get me wrong I think ALPA is completely f'ed up but to go in the opposite direction with lower pay and work rules is even more f'ed up. Will that solve the problems of the industry. For some reason I don't think it will.
#26
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I do support you, did you not read that I did? Yes with kind words, what else can I do? You voted for ALPA, so when you make a deal with the devil, well you know the rest. I never want to see those corrupt, no good criminals infesting the non union companies like they have done to your company. Kick them out I say. USAir did it didn't they?
#27
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Yes I totally agree with Aloha. What about the regionals? These people have been shat on for years and like Aloha says, how are you going to support them? Great point. I think the double standard is a friggin joke.
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From: Eagle FO, ERJ
Bottom line: you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And it's damn well not worth it just to be a cheerleader for some pseudo-Reaganesque anti-communist nonsense, while a Harvard-educated group of executives and lawyers screws you from behind.
#29
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From: B737-800 Captain, Dubai
As to supporting the regional pilots, as it is supposed to work, we would be providing you new hire jobs at a career worth retiring from. As it is, we are just providing you with an 11% growth as we park our mainline aircraft and furlough our mainline pilots.
I spent my time being "shat on" as a regional pilot for ACA - and in Jetstreams, not fancy RJs no less - and I was happy to do it, knowing that my career progression continued to the majors.
ALPA certainly has made its mistakes, but in no means has this been perpetuated or can be blamed on ALPA. This is a direct result of mismanagement.
You don't park the assets that generate revenue, or furlough employees that you just brought back when there is a clear under-staffing issue. You don't devalue your product by making it difficult for your customer to purchase your product (which is a trip from point A to point B) with great ideas like charging for checked bags and soda.
This management needs to wake up and realize that in order for things to change, they need to be leaders that understand basic business strategies. They need to make their employees happy - and that, not shareholders or stock prices, should be their biggest concern. If it is, the employees will take care of the customer, and in turn, the company will hold value for investors and shareholders.
While I do not condone illegal action (and I do not believe that using earned sick time due to the pressure of an ill-run operation is), I certainly hope it can shed light on the mismanaging of this airline, and in turn, most airlines with similar "shrink to profitability" ideas.
Just my opinion,
Randy
I spent my time being "shat on" as a regional pilot for ACA - and in Jetstreams, not fancy RJs no less - and I was happy to do it, knowing that my career progression continued to the majors.
ALPA certainly has made its mistakes, but in no means has this been perpetuated or can be blamed on ALPA. This is a direct result of mismanagement.
You don't park the assets that generate revenue, or furlough employees that you just brought back when there is a clear under-staffing issue. You don't devalue your product by making it difficult for your customer to purchase your product (which is a trip from point A to point B) with great ideas like charging for checked bags and soda.
This management needs to wake up and realize that in order for things to change, they need to be leaders that understand basic business strategies. They need to make their employees happy - and that, not shareholders or stock prices, should be their biggest concern. If it is, the employees will take care of the customer, and in turn, the company will hold value for investors and shareholders.
While I do not condone illegal action (and I do not believe that using earned sick time due to the pressure of an ill-run operation is), I certainly hope it can shed light on the mismanaging of this airline, and in turn, most airlines with similar "shrink to profitability" ideas.
Just my opinion,
Randy
#30
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I hope ALPA is evaluating a counter lawsuit for liable. Nothing has been proven to be unlawful, yet Mr. Tilton says hold out to the public that ALPA is a criminal organization.
This looks like clear evidence that United management is in the death throws having bled itself dry of any leadership or management acumen it once had. Now all it has is accusations, transfer of blame, and lawyers.
Sad. So sad. United could be a great company again if it had competent management and just a little bit of leadership.
This looks like clear evidence that United management is in the death throws having bled itself dry of any leadership or management acumen it once had. Now all it has is accusations, transfer of blame, and lawyers.
Sad. So sad. United could be a great company again if it had competent management and just a little bit of leadership.
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