I'm glad we can find some objectivity in this discussion. Letting one's emotions and personal biases dictate opinions is where well informed stances are born. Thanks

 

I find it amusing that Easties are wearing "UNION PILOT" badge backers now.

 

How about facts, do they count? Why don't you pontificate away the situation as you see it thru your pure unbiased eyes? Toodles.

 

This discussion is probably worth only about one opening and closing sentence (combined), considering the subject is USAPA, and considering the fact that everyone here fully understands (as stated above) that the real issue has nothing to do with market concentration in DC, and everything to do with pilot positions in New York, which in turn implies that there will be little point in anyone outside USAPA (and amateur economists) needlessly wasting bandwidth arguing market concentration issues, but all kinds of interest from the West side in reminding the East what boobs they are, and vice-versa, as this thread evolves, as everything involving USAPA, into abject failure and raw hatred.

 

Not just everyone here. The Justice Dept. knows it too.

USAPA concerned about higher air fares? Its just laughable.

US Airways is circling the drain. Sad to watch.
The real tragedy is the America West guys who got caught in the vortex.

 

Very sad indeed. Guys who had career expectations of being a captain on a 757 flying from Phoenix to Honolulu for the rest of their lives now got integrated in such a way that a senior cactus pilot (probably 45 years old) will be sitting left seat on a 330, overnighting in Rome while their FO is a 55 year old USair guy. Haha, the indecency! I'm sorry to be so glib, but do you really feel their lot was a tragedy?

I don't have a dog in the fight so theoretically and hopefully, I'm less biased. That being said, I don't really favor one side over the other, but the way I see it: USair was restructuring in bankruptcy and AmericaWest was staring down the gun of a likely bankruptcy pre-merger so its not like anybody magnanimously saved anybody else. The airlines saw the possibility of a symbiotic partnership, hoping their synergy would be enough to overcome the hard times. For the record I understand that a lot is at stake for both sides so this was bound to be a contentious issue, but as a west guy, deep down don't you guys feel like you got a pretty sweet deal with the proposed list intergration?

 

Guys who had career expectations of being a captain on a 757 flying from Phoenix to Honolulu for the rest of their lives now got integrated in such a way that a senior cactus pilot (probably 45 years old) will be sitting left seat on a 330, overnighting in Rome while their FO is a 55 year old USair guy. Haha, the indecency! I'm sorry to be so glib, but do you really feel their lot was a tragedy?


I don't have a dog in the fight so theoretically and hopefully, I'm less biased.


When will we see this happening?
Your ability to see the future is astounding.

 

Pardon me siiiirr... is this your ...deugg?

 

Thanks and its no secret that it would've happened if the east guys weren't fighting the list integration so hard.

 

The Nicalou agreement awarded the top 517 slots on a combined list to the East.
Assuming senior pilots want to fly international on the A 330 its safe to assume it will be East pilots flying these trips.

You seem to be somewhat ignorant of what is actually taking place in the integration.