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clancy 06-25-2011 05:42 PM

"a filthy sex based video" is a bit of a stretch. I thought it was "art". Kind of like Michelangelo's David, only in video format. A few colorful words here and there were simply meant to draw the viewer's attention to the facts.

Carl Spackler 06-25-2011 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by clancy (Post 1013958)
"a filthy sex based video" is a bit of a stretch. I thought it was "art". Kind of like Michelangelo's David, only in video format. A few colorful words here and there were simply meant to draw the viewer's attention to the facts.

Facts? Unbelievable. Enjoy your "art" dude. Just don't be shocked if any company takes offense at a filthy sex based video that uses the company's name.

You wouldn't think you'd have to tell people that...would you.

Carl

slowplay 06-26-2011 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1013978)
Facts? Unbelievable. Enjoy your "art" dude. Just don't be shocked if any company takes offense at a filthy sex based video that uses the company's name.

Especially when provided any "evidence" by a group that purports to want to represent ALL Delta pilots.


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1013978)
You wouldn't think you'd have to tell people that...would you.

Carl

Yeah, you'd think that a group that wants to represent folks wouldn't have to stoop so low...

You're defending the indefensible, Carl, and your attempted redirection is pretty transparent. But it's par for the course of the amateurs that you support.

Carl Spackler 06-26-2011 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1014106)
Especially when provided any "evidence" by a group that purports to want to represent ALL Delta pilots.

It's amusing how you never ask yourself the question as to why there was any evidence in the first place? One of your thug buddies produces a raunchy sex based video and uses the Delta Air Lines name, and you cry about who turned over the evidence. So typical of the ALPA apologist who will not be accountable for anything.

Now let's look at the evidence that your union dues paid DALPA thugs turned over to the ATL chief pilots. Evidence that supposedly showed violations of law and company policy. DPA didn't cry about someone turning over evidence, DPA simply said look at their evidence and you'll see we are totally within our rights. And of course, DPA was right and the DALPA thugs were wrong.


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1014106)
Yeah, you'd think that a group that wants to represent folks wouldn't have to stoop so low...

You mean like your DALPA thugs that used union dues to pay themselves to disrupt the free speech rights of Delta pilots? You're right...that was stooping as low as it gets.


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1014106)
You're defending the indefensible, Carl, and your attempted redirection is pretty transparent. But it's par for the course of the amateurs that you support.

You're unreachable, but I knew that going in. You're hoping beyond hope to impress your thug masters so you can stick your hand in that union dues honey pot. There's no redirection going on at all with me. Just stating the facts and you can't stand them.

I'm proud though that no matter how much thugs like you bait the DPA guys, they continue to act with class and dignity. Something you would know nothing about.

Carl

Karnak 07-04-2011 11:15 AM

Carl and his irrepressible double-standard.

He's the Diet Coke of logic...no calories.

Karnak 07-04-2011 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1013349)
Slow and steady wins the race.

It's not a race. It's an effort to get a better contract. The failure of DPA to gather anywhere NEAR enough support to challenge ALPA early enough to not interfere with contract negotiations is harmful to Delta pilots.

Carl Spackler 07-04-2011 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1017786)
It's not a race. It's an effort to get a better contract. The failure of DPA to gather anywhere NEAR enough support to challenge ALPA early enough to not interfere with contract negotiations is harmful to Delta pilots.

Nowhere near as harmful as "educating" Delta pilots to see things through management's eyes before the contract survey comes out.

My prediction of DALPA's weak opener in Section 6 will do more to harm Delta pilots than anything imaginable. I pray that we can get the additional 25% DPA cards in place before DALPA can proffer that weak opener.

Carl

Carl Spackler 07-04-2011 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1017785)
Carl and his irrepressible double-standard.

He's the Diet Coke of logic...no calories.

Glib quips are so much easier than stating facts and debating issues. ;)

Carl

ExAF 07-05-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1017786)
It's not a race. It's an effort to get a better contract. The failure of DPA to gather anywhere NEAR enough support to challenge ALPA early enough to not interfere with contract negotiations is harmful to Delta pilots.

I guess that depends on your point of view.

Karnak 07-09-2011 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1018227)
I guess that depends on your point of view.

Agree!

My POV: We want the best contract possible, and unified pilot groups get better contracts than squabbling pilot groups.

What's your's?


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