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IADBLRJ41

08-02-2011 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 1032684)

I'd say there are a lot of apathetic ones who dont really want ALPA, but are too lazy to vote. Of course the ALPA fans are going to vote. If every pilot was required to cast a vote I dont think ALPA would pass. But, a vote only counts if you actually vote, so I think it will be really close.

Thanks it will be interesting to see the result.

Fishfreighter

08-02-2011 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1032688)

I love how people assume former TWA pilots are going to get a massive settlement which will bankrupt ALPA.

No kidding. Even though ALPA lost, the settlement "award" will be tied up in court for YEARS, perhaps DECADES.

I wouldn't worry about that too much at this point.

eaglefly

08-02-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1032688)

I love how people assume former TWA pilots are going to get a massive settlement which will bankrupt ALPA.

...and I love how some people think ALPA is all Incense and Peppermints.

From what I've heard, I'm surprised they're not going to jail. There's been allegations of deliberate attempts to decieve a civil court and destruction of evidence (which would indicate a conspiracy). Considering the court documents and the result, the assumption that ALPA WILL NOT face a devistaing fine/award is more of an assumption then the opposite.

tone	08-02-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1032688)

I love how people assume former TWA pilots are going to get a massive settlement which will bankrupt ALPA.

Yeah, how crazy is that? These are the same crazy people that thought TWA pilots would win the suit. Oh yeah, they did! Airline pilot salaries, retirement contributions, benefits, etc for 2400 pilots, for 9 years is a lot of money. No assumptions here. There is no doubt that TWA pilots will get a massive settlement. It's how ALPA is going to pay for it that is speculation. More than likely there will be hugh assessments from ALPA members. Remember: ALPA did this to their OWN members, the ones that paid them to protect them. It was done WITH INTENT, which means intentionally. Nobody here is watching too much Law and Order. This really happens.

OleDawg

08-02-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tone (Post 1032786)

There is no doubt that TWA pilots will get a massive settlement. It's how ALPA is going to pay for it that is speculation. More than likely there will be hugh assessments from ALPA members.

Or insurance, which nearly all businesses, including ALPA, maintain in case of lawsuits.

Without ALPA, where would TWA be? I doubt any of them would be at AA now, and they would have never had recall rights. Did they screw the pooch with the AA/TWA merger? Absolutely, but I don't think TWA is worse off because of ALPA.

eaglefly

08-02-2011 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OleDawg (Post 1032795)

Heard the figure of 1.2 billion as potential liability.

How much insurance does ALPA have ?

Bucking Bar

08-02-2011 11:01 AM

It's always cute when someone votes for themselves and the vote turns out:
ALPA 1,983
JETBLUE STUDENT COUNCIL 105
HEYWOOD JABLOWME 1

Fishfreighter

08-02-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1032835)

It's always cute when someone votes for themselves and the vote turns out:
ALPA 1,983
JETBLUE STUDENT COUNCIL 105
HEYWOOD JABLOWME 1

Darn it, Bar! Now I have to clean coffee out of the keyboard AGAIN!

Fishfreighter

08-02-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1032826)

Heard the figure of 1.2 billion as potential liability.

Again, the only real questions:

1. How long can ALPA tie up the damage award in the court system?
Answer: A long, long, LONG time.

2. How much of the liability rests with the TWA MEC members and how much DFDR insurance to THEY have?

Those are the fundamental questions that remain unresolved.

Columbia

08-02-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1032835)

It's always cute when someone votes for themselves and the vote turns out:
ALPA 1,983
JETBLUE STUDENT COUNCIL 105
HEYWOOD JABLOWME 1

Agreed, except I think Heywood Jablome will get the 1,983 votes.

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