EWRflyr

This was the rule change made which says that the majority of actual voters not the majority of eligible voters determines the outcome of a representational election.

Airlines Fail to Overturn Obama Rule on Union Elections - Bloomberg

One Bush-appointed judge and one Clinton-appointed judge upheld the rule change with one judge (also Bush-appointed) dissenting.

hesitant

Thank goodness for things like that.

detpilot

Go Obama!

mike734

Elections matter.

sailingfun

Because if you pay your workers a decent wage it leaves less money for the perfumed princes to steal from the company. Every dollar management gives to peons is a dollar they could have taken for themselves.

2StgTurbine

WARNING! WARNING!

This thread is in danger!

Posters are getting dangerously close to discussing politics.

Remember, just because this ruling involved politics, we must not discuss the politics, only the outcome...which was debated in a political environment...but don't mention the political environment.

Now someone please post something about Obamanomics, investing in gold, or Atlas Shrugged.

jungle

You boys get back to me when this makes any difference at all in your real net salary, not just a raise for the ALPA president.

There are two main reasons we don't talk politics here:

1. All politicos are liars, if you don't understand this you still have a lot of growing up to do.

2. They really are not going to help you, if you don't understand this you still have a lot of growing up to do.

Believe whatever you like, unicorns still won't exist. Lip service will go on forever.

Here is your payback for loyalty:


Union Membership: Overall (1948-2004)
U.S. Union Membership, 1948-2004
(numbers in thousands)
Year %Workforce Total members
1948 31.8 14,271
1949 31.9 13,935
1950 31.6 14,294
1951 31.7 15,139
1952 32.0 15,632
1953 32.5 16,310
1954 32.3 15,808
1955 31.8 16,126
1956 31.4 16,446
1957 31.2 16,497
1958 30.3 15,570
1959 29.0 15,438
1960 28.6 15,516
1961 28.5 15,400
1962 30.4 16,893
1963 30.2 17,133
1964 30.2 17,597
1965 30.1 18,268
1966 29.6 18,922
1967 29.9 19,667
1968 29.5 20,017
1969 28.7 20,185
1970 29.6 20,990
1971 29.1 20,711
1972 28.8 21,205
1973 28.5 21,881
1974 28.3 22,165
1975 28.9 22,207
1976 27.9 22,153
1977 26.2 21,632
1978 25.1 21,756
1979 24.5 22,025
1980 23.2 20,968
1981 22.6 20,646
1982 21.9 19,571
1983 20.7 18,633
1984 18.8 17,340
1985 18.0 16,996
1986 17.5 16,975
1987 17.0 16,913
1988 16.8 17,002
1989 16.4 16,960
1990 16.1 16,740
1991 16.1 16,568
1992 15.8 16,390
1993 15.8 16,598
1994 15.5 16,748
1995 14.9 16,326
1996 14.5 16,269
1997 14.1 16,110
1998 13.9 16,211
1999 13.9 16,477
2000 13.5 16,258
2001 13.5 16,275
2002 13.3 16,146
2003 12.9 15,776
2004 12.5 15,472



Sources: Union Sourcebook 1947-1983; U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

B727DRVR

Herc,

I think that it is an amazingly educated and apropos comment.

Just watch Rush and Hannity on Fox "News", playing in every crew room, FBO, barbershop, etc: Free market good, union evil. Repeat.

Olympic is most certainly correct.

Lab Rat

You obviously do not see the irony in your statement: what is the main purpose of a union? Collective bargaining. What do people do in a free market? They bargain for goods and services. What is the antithesis of a free market? How about an economy with strict government controls. By the way, how many successful airline pilot unions do you see flourishing in China?

atpcliff

"How many successful airline pilot unions do you see flourishing in the US???"

cliff
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