Treatment after declining membership
02-19-2014 | 06:20 AM
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So Unions can donate politically, Rodger that. Yes the FAR's are a direct result of unions. Airplanes crashing and killing people had nothing to do with it, and lord knows only unions care about safety. I said "employers want good hard working employees and will pay them fairly so as to keep them in the fold." You said I was living in a fantasy world and those employers were few and far between. As for Detroit, good move not delving into that discussion... I just don't understand how a completely unionized industry went so terribly wrong? As far as calling someone a Slug to their face. C'mon man, do you tell everyone who is lazy to their face, such(union or not)? I guess I should be a man go into work and tell a superior I think he's lazy and a worthless pile of steaming cow dung. You got me I'm a coward because I don't have the balls to tell a captain I think he's lazy. (Even thou he really was). And still don't what a PM is, I guess I'm an idiot.
Lastly I apologize for hijacking this thread temporarily. I have opted out of a union before, and yes caught a minor amount of grief for it. I don't like unions and could care less about how I was treated (which wasn't really bad). Let other sheep pay for union bosses to take luxury vacations.
Lastly I apologize for hijacking this thread temporarily. I have opted out of a union before, and yes caught a minor amount of grief for it. I don't like unions and could care less about how I was treated (which wasn't really bad). Let other sheep pay for union bosses to take luxury vacations.
02-20-2014 | 05:58 PM
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02-21-2014 | 03:21 AM
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Oh, it is a pittance, less than a pittance, even... about $12/month. From a practical standpoint it is negligible, less than negligible, even.
In principle, however, it is of great personal value to me. In addition, the reaction of some of the devout True Believers to my Non Believer status can at times be a source of entertainment.
In principle, however, it is of great personal value to me. In addition, the reaction of some of the devout True Believers to my Non Believer status can at times be a source of entertainment.
03-23-2014 | 08:04 PM
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At DAL I doubt anyone would notice or care. You certainly wouldn't feel any blowback on the line. As long as your paying your share, why would it matter that you choose to not vote? The majority don't vote in elections. Union meetings with 30 pilots would be considered well attended. And even contract votes see large percentages just not bothering. Go ahead and opt-out if it makes you feel better. If you don't tell anyone, no one will know.
03-26-2014 | 03:49 AM
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07-22-2014 | 06:02 AM
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Oh, it is a pittance, less than a pittance, even... about $12/month. From a practical standpoint it is negligible, less than negligible, even.
In principle, however, it is of great personal value to me. In addition, the reaction of some of the devout True Believers to my Non Believer status can at times be a source of entertainment.
In principle, however, it is of great personal value to me. In addition, the reaction of some of the devout True Believers to my Non Believer status can at times be a source of entertainment.
"A pacifist (non-member) is a shifty fellow who partakes of the benefits of society (collective bargaining agreement and associated representation) without being willing to pay...and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
07-22-2014 | 11:16 PM
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Spoken like a true zealot. Four legs good, two legs bad.
I actually do pay my share of the cost of my CBA and associated representation. Willingly, in good conscience and in accordance with the provisions of that CBA.
I also defend that CBA vigorously, again in accordance with the provisions contained therein.
I am a big Heinlein fan and quote him often in everyday conversation. Your quote does not fit this mold. Perhaps if you were to read this entire thread and/or research the case law regarding fee paying objectors the misfit will become apparent. Failing that, if you were to search his quotes regarding religious zealotry and substitute "union" where appropriate you could possibly glimpse my true reasons.
I actually do pay my share of the cost of my CBA and associated representation. Willingly, in good conscience and in accordance with the provisions of that CBA.
I also defend that CBA vigorously, again in accordance with the provisions contained therein.
I am a big Heinlein fan and quote him often in everyday conversation. Your quote does not fit this mold. Perhaps if you were to read this entire thread and/or research the case law regarding fee paying objectors the misfit will become apparent. Failing that, if you were to search his quotes regarding religious zealotry and substitute "union" where appropriate you could possibly glimpse my true reasons.
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