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Boeing Aviator 07-14-2022 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3460588)
Tell them what you want and leave it at that. Don't get into some debate because they will use your words against you. Just like when dealing with a lawyer, say as little as possible. If you get a call it should go like this.

"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"

Thank them for their time and hang up.

Do NOT get into a discussion.

Add a DAL equivalent LTD, not the severely lacking LTD in the TA. Increased vacation pay. Now I’m with you.

fadec 07-14-2022 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3460588)
Tell them what you want and leave it at that. Don't get into some debate because they will use your words against you. Just like when dealing with a lawyer, say as little as possible. If you get a call it should go like this.

"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"

Thank them for their time and hang up.

Do NOT get into a discussion.

Let's discuss. What about line holder reassignments, iro currency, fbo, better reserve rules, sick leave, LTD, training pay, vacation, PS commutes, etc. What about the fact that this TA gives the company complete control both of schedule and pay right up to the last minute. If the "incentives" were worth it then such provisions need not be mandatory.

The TA is so bad that we can't keep it simple when starting from the TA. We could perhaps keep it simpler starting from the current contract, but even then there are many items to address.


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