Polling Manipulation
#1
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Soon you will be polled for the first time in years.
Alpa leaders have a long history of crafting questions to get the results they desire.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
It is critical that the No voting reps approve of the questions.
Alpa leaders have a long history of crafting questions to get the results they desire.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
It is critical that the No voting reps approve of the questions.
#3
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Can you just head back to your own forum now?
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Tell them what you want and leave it at that. Don't get into some debate because they will use your words against you. Just like when dealing with a lawyer, say as little as possible. If you get a call it should go like this.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
#6
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Tell them what you want and leave it at that. Don't get into some debate because they will use your words against you. Just like when dealing with a lawyer, say as little as possible. If you get a call it should go like this.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
#7
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I disagree. All the reps will see the polling results. The strong reps who voted No can use this to hold the Yes voters feet to the fire.
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Tell them what you want and leave it at that. Don't get into some debate because they will use your words against you. Just like when dealing with a lawyer, say as little as possible. If you get a call it should go like this.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
"Amend our current contract to include
a retirement plan that is company funded, pay rates in excess of inflation 20% minimum, reserve rule improvements, LCA/ PI rates 5% above DAL and a me too clause"
Thank them for their time and hang up.
Do NOT get into a discussion.
#10
It doesn’t matter what the polling produces. United pilots are disappointed and disillusioned with the MEC and NC.
It’ll be easy to stoke that anger and resentment until TA2 (the do over) is released. The MEC should know it’s a much higher bar than the garbage they turned out in TA1. If they can’t figure out where they went wrong with the feedback from the past 3 weeks what good is a poll?
Bottom line, membership ratification is required on TA2 and everyone is now paying attention.
Ironically, it appears the CEO is stepping in to save the MEC from itself.
It’ll be easy to stoke that anger and resentment until TA2 (the do over) is released. The MEC should know it’s a much higher bar than the garbage they turned out in TA1. If they can’t figure out where they went wrong with the feedback from the past 3 weeks what good is a poll?
Bottom line, membership ratification is required on TA2 and everyone is now paying attention.
Ironically, it appears the CEO is stepping in to save the MEC from itself.
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