Short call illegality
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Short call illegality
All,
I recently landed and was subsequently given a short call assignment which was 10 hours or more from landing(plus 15 min after). All good. So I landed at 5:35 pm and had an 0400 short call the next day.
At 0700 I was called to fly a trip. When the trip was put into the computer, I was then listed as illegal.
Reference the contract:
5-f-3-d
My previous day(the day before my last day or two days prior to short call) had gone over 12 hours in the operation. I was given 11 hours or less time off. Legal to that point. However, the language says you must me given 13 hours off the next period.
So two things happen here.
1. The short call assignment was illegal. Instead of 10 hours, I should've been given 13 hours.
2. When the crew desk called and inputed the actual ID I was called out for on short call, the computer then caught the illegality. NOTE: the computer does not catch the illegality of actually being scheduled for a short call.
Now there are a couple ways to play this. If you land and your previous duty day was over 12 hours with 11 hours or less of rest you can
1. Say no to short call assignment if not 13'hours or greater for time off.
2. Accept short call and know you are illegal for any assignment given to you(the computer will catch this). I like this method because I get paid for short call and know I'm not flying. Crew desk released me after seeing it was illegal. They had me flying into an FDO as well with only one day of reserve left.
As someone once wrote on this forum, don't read the FOM, read the contract. That's where the money is.
Take care. Hope this helps some people
I recently landed and was subsequently given a short call assignment which was 10 hours or more from landing(plus 15 min after). All good. So I landed at 5:35 pm and had an 0400 short call the next day.
At 0700 I was called to fly a trip. When the trip was put into the computer, I was then listed as illegal.
Reference the contract:
5-f-3-d
My previous day(the day before my last day or two days prior to short call) had gone over 12 hours in the operation. I was given 11 hours or less time off. Legal to that point. However, the language says you must me given 13 hours off the next period.
So two things happen here.
1. The short call assignment was illegal. Instead of 10 hours, I should've been given 13 hours.
2. When the crew desk called and inputed the actual ID I was called out for on short call, the computer then caught the illegality. NOTE: the computer does not catch the illegality of actually being scheduled for a short call.
Now there are a couple ways to play this. If you land and your previous duty day was over 12 hours with 11 hours or less of rest you can
1. Say no to short call assignment if not 13'hours or greater for time off.
2. Accept short call and know you are illegal for any assignment given to you(the computer will catch this). I like this method because I get paid for short call and know I'm not flying. Crew desk released me after seeing it was illegal. They had me flying into an FDO as well with only one day of reserve left.
As someone once wrote on this forum, don't read the FOM, read the contract. That's where the money is.
Take care. Hope this helps some people
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