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AllenAllert 04-05-2017 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2336974)
Regardless of this guys history, it just blows my mind to see guys are still so hung up on what some anonymous internet low life is up to.

He does have his problems with story telling/making stuff up but I don't think we should call him a low life.

SUX4U 04-05-2017 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 2337099)
He does have his problems with story telling/making stuff up but I don't think we should call him a low life.

It's ok if it's used in an endearing "brotherly love" kinda way!

Lurchi 04-06-2017 06:42 AM

is it usually senior FOs that do this? What about Sim instructors is that a senior FO job typically?

Dave Fitzgerald 04-06-2017 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Lurchi (Post 2337341)
is it usually senior FOs that do this? What about Sim instructors is that a senior FO job typically?

It depends on the job description. Flight managers are typically Capt in the domicile. There are FO's in the office, they essentially do the same job, with less pay, different title. Chief pilot and assist Chief pilot? They are the sheriff in town. Think SFO. Usually an upper management suck up.

TK, Standards capts are Capts. Usually all the hard working instructors are FO's. Also depends on the time of the year, phase of the moon, and how good the skiing is as to what they are called.

Ottolillienthal 04-06-2017 09:52 AM

In order of priority

1. Diversity
2. Relationships
3. Sick calls
4. Airmanship/judgement/knowledge
5. Professionalism
6. Rapport with crew members

It's an "HR" box checking exercise and friend of a friend thing.

Ottolillienthal 04-06-2017 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2335938)
Doing personnel management in most industries, you spend 90% of your time dealing with the bottom 10%. But at least you get to spend some time with the good folks. Thank keeps you sane.

Working in the flight office of an airline, are going to spend 99.9% of your time, mostly dealing with the same problem children, over and over.

I have done management in other places. For me, being a flight office puke would be bad for my attitude. I will rather just fly my line, go home, and beat up on Staller on APC.

But at UAL I think we have allot of good folks. I think managers tend to spend too much time explaining policies, policy changes, and figuring out what your boss is trying to say. Way too much time on BS.

Yep, a few problem folks, but not too bad.

Riddle me this, What is Ray ever talking about? I no comprend-o.

It's like a Mexican radeeee-o.

ugleeual 04-06-2017 10:42 AM

From what I understand the Asst Chief Pilots deal with Captains and FMs deal with FOs...

Lurchi 04-06-2017 11:52 AM

Dave thanks for the info. I don't even were a United uniform yet so it is quite interesting but not really relevant.....yet....

fadec 04-06-2017 07:52 PM

I think anyone interested should apply. I have no idea if it's a good ol boy network or not. Even if it is, those get shook up every once and a while too. Here's why...

You have Arnold who is dating Betty and she was a nasty lady to a pilot. The pilot complained to Chuck, Arnolds supervisor, who is friends with Arnold but is sick of Betty's problems. Arnold covered for Betty and now Chuck is covering for both becuase he ows Arnold one from Burning Man. Now a position is open and Arnold is recommending this cool dude he knows from his glory days. Chuck has is own guy too. Now chuck doesn't want to look like he's retaliating at Arnold because that could blow their cover, or it might strain an already tense relationship. Chuck also doesn't want to deal with more crapola from Arnold and kin either. So he logs in to the resume system and looks for a guy that might give a hoot. Chuck just wants a person who wont screw up, who meets diversity constraints if there are any, and if she's single then that's a bonus.

Always apply. When you assume a GOB network then you should also assume that internal politics are very weird. You may have a chance.

Shrek 04-06-2017 07:54 PM

Itching to become a Flight Manager is not my idea of a fun time - to each their own - lol


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