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Floyd 04-07-2017 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2338511)
Some guys are a bit predictable. I didn't think I asked a polarizing question. But I guess anything can be perceived as a micro aggression. Luckily 95% if the guys I've flown with have been pretty cool.

The question is what drives you to work in the flight office? Tagging on one who astutely posted earlier, if your desire is to benefit the pilots of United, contact your LEC to find out where your services are most needed.

fanaticalflyer 04-08-2017 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2338511)
Some guys are a bit predictable. I didn't think I asked a polarizing question. But I guess anything can be perceived as a micro aggression. Luckily 95% if the guys I've flown with have been pretty cool.

You have to understand a little background. Working in the CPO, you will alienate 1/2 the pilots that won't trust you and never will. The other 1/2, you might earn their trust but they'll keep an eye out on you . I was asked years ago to maybe consider doing a flight manager position. I talked to a local ALPA rep about that, and he was quite frank. No matter how good you're intentions are as a FM, majority of them go to the dark side. Plus you will have guys not liking or trusting you from there on out. Want to truly help your pilot group - then work with ALPA.

For example the current LAX FM - nice guy, but wouldn't trust him in a million years. Ex-fighter jock, but he's management oriented. He tries to be a pilot-friend, but does the dirty work for the CPO. He's your friend until there is a he said/she said moment and he'll never side with you. His intentions were great when he went in, but he is one of them now. Not only will I never trust him, I will never be his friend. Is it harsh, yup, but he chose being a FM. RJDio, you will have to choose, if this something worth it. If it's for lifestyle, then just be senior in a fleet & seat, and work less and get the days off you want. You can make more by picking up a trip. If your long term goal is being a system chief pilot or VP of flight ops one day, then have at it, but know what'll happen along the way with how other pilot will treat you or respect you AND you don't have to care. good luck

Regularguy 04-08-2017 03:17 PM

No I don't "rock" and that's ok with me, but my only assumption about someone whose posts using RJDio is that they came from the RJ crowd and not a rocker wannabe.

This is a crowd of pilot bloggers, and not an ancient metal band member, but go ahead and blame me for being wrong about your handle, if that's the case.

Oh, and yes I never liked heavy metal even though I lived in the day when they were young. But it is better than rap and I did have an original Iron Butterfly album because it was the thing to do in the day. And then I stopped following the crowd.

Ps. To me Chicago was more than just the Windy City.

I think others have posted with me on this whole idea of yours. FM is not about lifestyle.

awax 04-08-2017 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2338507)

Speaking of spinal tap, we (my new hire class) had our spinal tap moment at TK. One evening we got lost and we're aimlessly walking around up and down stairs, down hallways, trying to find an exit.

As long as you were reciting "hello Cleveland....." as you were wandering

awax 04-08-2017 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2338986)

Ps. To me Chicago was more than just the Windy City.

I heard the band Chicago goes great with a chilled Chardonnay and Vagisil. Or maybe I'm just making an assumption.

Terrain Inop 04-08-2017 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2339016)
I heard the band Chicago goes great with a chilled Chardonnay and Vagisil. Or maybe I'm just making an assumption.

https://youtu.be/Nm5z-Ij-rB8

Regularguy 04-08-2017 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2339016)
I heard the band Chicago goes great with a chilled Chardonnay and Vagisil. Or maybe I'm just making an assumption.


Close.

But most ska bands model their instruments after Chicago. Think horns and such.

You're my inspiration...

HuggyU2 04-08-2017 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2338965)
You have to understand a little background.

I'm not arguing with you, as I'm not in a position to really know. However, if true, I find it sure paints a poor picture of the pilot community. You need a "good leader", yet when they become one, they become the enemy, and are not trusted.

LeeFXDWG 04-09-2017 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by buscappy (Post 2338376)
RJDio

darn you for going on a pilot forum and asking for some info. just darn you !!

if you follow about a dozen of the regulars on here you'll see that reading is not their strong suit. or logical thought.

i always think these dozen or so are all like those pilots you fly with and just roll your eyes as they talk and later avoid on the layover. you know the type

oddly (maybe not) they are overrepresented on online forums

I got a good laugh. Thanks

Lee

Shrek 04-09-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2339121)
I'm not arguing with you, as I'm not in a position to really know. However, if true, I find it sure paints a poor picture of the pilot community. You need a "good leader", yet when they become one, they become the enemy, and are not trusted.

A good leader is the Captain.....not the CPO. The CPO supports the line flight crew with their duties.


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