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Old 04-03-2017 | 02:24 AM
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I was hoping someone could shed some light on life as a flight manager. I know you have to stay current, but how much do you really fly? How much time do you typically spend in the office? What do office days pay? Does the junior flight manager work the holidays in the office? The weekends? Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
I was hoping someone could shed some light on life as a flight manager. I know you have to stay current, but how much do you really fly? How much time do you typically spend in the office? What do office days pay? Does the junior flight manager work the holidays in the office? The weekends? Thanks in advance.
Strange question!

In reality one does not apply to be a Flight Manager and if you are a UAL pilot you would know that.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 06:45 AM
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Strange question!

In reality one does not apply to be a Flight Manager and if you are a UAL pilot you would know that.


Actually you do. You have to be a united pilot. It's an office job that you apply and interview for. You can work four 10s or three 12s. It pays 95 hours at whatever equipment rate you could hold system wide. You have to fly something like 3 days a month. As far as who works what days, not sure. Seems like a decent deal if you live close to the domicile and like working in the office.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 07:01 AM
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Actually you do. You have to be a united pilot. It's an office job that you apply and interview for.
If you are applying and don't know which "candidate" (cough) has the inside track.....it's not you.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 07:16 AM
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If you are applying and don't know which "candidate" (cough) has the inside track.....it's not you.


I won't say I disagree with that.....
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Old 04-03-2017 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
If you are applying and don't know which "candidate" (cough) has the inside track.....it's not you.
The one with fewer sick calls?
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Old 04-03-2017 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
If you are applying and don't know which "candidate" (cough) has the inside track.....it's not you.
Exactly! He get's it.


Triumph, really!

Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 11:14 AM
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They have condensed 4 day schedules when I asked one of our old DCA FMs and get paid like 85 hours or so... and they fly one trip a month (FBO a pilot's line). Like the guys said above... you might have to submit an online app to get hired officially but all the real hiring is behind the scenes. If interested You need to volunteer for special assignments and become one of the good ole boys... then you "apply" when the incumbent good ole boy leaves for another job. I'd go the ALPA route if you really want to help and get involved with "management"...
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Old 04-03-2017 | 12:35 PM
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Triumph, thanks for the response. Regularguy, FYI, you officially need to apply for the job. The instructions are in the ccs message.

I am familiar with office politics and playing favorites. I was just trying to get an idea of the risk is worth the reward.
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Old 04-03-2017 | 06:54 PM
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Triumph, thanks for the response. Regularguy, FYI, you officially need to apply for the job. The instructions are in the ccs message.

I am familiar with office politics and playing favorites. I was just trying to get an idea of the risk is worth the reward.

RJgod

Just so you know back in the day I was in "management" and know the full routine. So unless you get asked and are in the know you will not get hired no matter how you applied.

Yes you "have" to fill out the official application, but rarely is there a surprise person in the office. They have already been vetted via special assignments and other work, including ALPA volunteer . You'd know that if you worked for UAL. So I'd say you have very little risk or threats.

Press on!

PS. It really isn't politics or favoritism (well mostly not). It's bringing men and women that are known and can be trusted with the "keys. "

If you actually work for UAL volunteer in your local ALPA council and get known for your quality work and support of your fellow pilots. It's not about improving you lifestyle.
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