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Old 04-05-2017 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Regardless of this guys history, it just blows my mind to see guys are still so hung up on what some anonymous internet low life is up to.
He does have his problems with story telling/making stuff up but I don't think we should call him a low life.
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Old 04-05-2017 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
He does have his problems with story telling/making stuff up but I don't think we should call him a low life.
It's ok if it's used in an endearing "brotherly love" kinda way!
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Old 04-06-2017 | 06:42 AM
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is it usually senior FOs that do this? What about Sim instructors is that a senior FO job typically?
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Old 04-06-2017 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lurchi
is it usually senior FOs that do this? What about Sim instructors is that a senior FO job typically?
It depends on the job description. Flight managers are typically Capt in the domicile. There are FO's in the office, they essentially do the same job, with less pay, different title. Chief pilot and assist Chief pilot? They are the sheriff in town. Think SFO. Usually an upper management suck up.

TK, Standards capts are Capts. Usually all the hard working instructors are FO's. Also depends on the time of the year, phase of the moon, and how good the skiing is as to what they are called.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 09:52 AM
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In order of priority

1. Diversity
2. Relationships
3. Sick calls
4. Airmanship/judgement/knowledge
5. Professionalism
6. Rapport with crew members

It's an "HR" box checking exercise and friend of a friend thing.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
Doing personnel management in most industries, you spend 90% of your time dealing with the bottom 10%. But at least you get to spend some time with the good folks. Thank keeps you sane.

Working in the flight office of an airline, are going to spend 99.9% of your time, mostly dealing with the same problem children, over and over.

I have done management in other places. For me, being a flight office puke would be bad for my attitude. I will rather just fly my line, go home, and beat up on Staller on APC.
But at UAL I think we have allot of good folks. I think managers tend to spend too much time explaining policies, policy changes, and figuring out what your boss is trying to say. Way too much time on BS.

Yep, a few problem folks, but not too bad.

Riddle me this, What is Ray ever talking about? I no comprend-o.

It's like a Mexican radeeee-o.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 10:42 AM
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From what I understand the Asst Chief Pilots deal with Captains and FMs deal with FOs...
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Old 04-06-2017 | 11:52 AM
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Dave thanks for the info. I don't even were a United uniform yet so it is quite interesting but not really relevant.....yet....
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Old 04-06-2017 | 07:52 PM
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I think anyone interested should apply. I have no idea if it's a good ol boy network or not. Even if it is, those get shook up every once and a while too. Here's why...

You have Arnold who is dating Betty and she was a nasty lady to a pilot. The pilot complained to Chuck, Arnolds supervisor, who is friends with Arnold but is sick of Betty's problems. Arnold covered for Betty and now Chuck is covering for both becuase he ows Arnold one from Burning Man. Now a position is open and Arnold is recommending this cool dude he knows from his glory days. Chuck has is own guy too. Now chuck doesn't want to look like he's retaliating at Arnold because that could blow their cover, or it might strain an already tense relationship. Chuck also doesn't want to deal with more crapola from Arnold and kin either. So he logs in to the resume system and looks for a guy that might give a hoot. Chuck just wants a person who wont screw up, who meets diversity constraints if there are any, and if she's single then that's a bonus.

Always apply. When you assume a GOB network then you should also assume that internal politics are very weird. You may have a chance.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 07:54 PM
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Itching to become a Flight Manager is not my idea of a fun time - to each their own - lol
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