The question is what drives you to work in the flight office? Tagging on one who astutely posted earlier, if your desire is to benefit the pilots of United, contact your LEC to find out where your services are most needed.

 

You have to understand a little background. Working in the CPO, you will alienate 1/2 the pilots that won't trust you and never will. The other 1/2, you might earn their trust but they'll keep an eye out on you . I was asked years ago to maybe consider doing a flight manager position. I talked to a local ALPA rep about that, and he was quite frank. No matter how good you're intentions are as a FM, majority of them go to the dark side. Plus you will have guys not liking or trusting you from there on out. Want to truly help your pilot group - then work with ALPA.

For example the current LAX FM - nice guy, but wouldn't trust him in a million years. Ex-fighter jock, but he's management oriented. He tries to be a pilot-friend, but does the dirty work for the CPO. He's your friend until there is a he said/she said moment and he'll never side with you. His intentions were great when he went in, but he is one of them now. Not only will I never trust him, I will never be his friend. Is it harsh, yup, but he chose being a FM. RJDio, you will have to choose, if this something worth it. If it's for lifestyle, then just be senior in a fleet & seat, and work less and get the days off you want. You can make more by picking up a trip. If your long term goal is being a system chief pilot or VP of flight ops one day, then have at it, but know what'll happen along the way with how other pilot will treat you or respect you AND you don't have to care. good luck

 

No I don't "rock" and that's ok with me, but my only assumption about someone whose posts using RJDio is that they came from the RJ crowd and not a rocker wannabe.

This is a crowd of pilot bloggers, and not an ancient metal band member, but go ahead and blame me for being wrong about your handle, if that's the case.

Oh, and yes I never liked heavy metal even though I lived in the day when they were young. But it is better than rap and I did have an original Iron Butterfly album because it was the thing to do in the day. And then I stopped following the crowd.

Ps. To me Chicago was more than just the Windy City.

I think others have posted with me on this whole idea of yours. FM is not about lifestyle.

 

As long as you were reciting "hello Cleveland....." as you were wandering

 

I heard the band Chicago goes great with a chilled Chardonnay and Vagisil. Or maybe I'm just making an assumption.

 

https://youtu.be/Nm5z-Ij-rB8

 

Close.

But most ska bands model their instruments after Chicago. Think horns and such.

You're my inspiration...

 

I'm not arguing with you, as I'm not in a position to really know. However, if true, I find it sure paints a poor picture of the pilot community. You need a "good leader", yet when they become one, they become the enemy, and are not trusted.

 

I got a good laugh. Thanks

Lee

 

A good leader is the Captain.....not the CPO. The CPO supports the line flight crew with their duties.