Boeing 797
#31
Supposedly, they changed the designation of their short-range 707 to "720" so that it would sound like a whole new airplane. That made it easier for an airline CEO, who had already chosen the DC-8, to explain this new purchase to the BOD.
#32
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the 787-8 is exactly the same size as the 767-300ER. It just flies to dang far. For that reason it carries to much extra weight. Put in a smaller center tank and up the max ZFW. This should add more cargo room.
The mission we need is sub 12hrs. 150,000ish pounds of fuel should suffice.
The mission we need is sub 12hrs. 150,000ish pounds of fuel should suffice.
It was cancelled for lack of orders.
#33
You mean like this: https://leehamnews.com/2015/02/25/78...ement-for-757/
It was cancelled for lack of orders.
It was cancelled for lack of orders.
#34
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As far as single or double isle, double isle isn't any good until you get to 9 across. The 767 was 7 across. For 1 extra seat per row, you also got an isle. The 767 was 50% heavier than a 757, for 16% more seats. That was not a good tradeoff. There will never be another double isle aircraft with 7 across seating in coach.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the future minimum twin aisle configuration be 10 across (3x4x3).
#35
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Are you kidding? The weight and added drag of a larger fuselage for a second aisle is why you don't see any passenger 767-200 aircraft around anymore. It had the highest CASM for that reason alone.
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The two aisles is designed to have an airplane with over 200 seats that doesn't take 45+ minutes to board and deboard. You'd need over 90 minutes to switch crews with a single-aisle 200+ seat plane. Certainly getting the plane to turn an hour is not going to happen unless they are 2 aisles with 230 seats.
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The two aisles is designed to have an airplane with over 200 seats that doesn't take 45+ minutes to board and deboard. You'd need over 90 minutes to switch crews with a single-aisle 200+ seat plane. Certainly getting the plane to turn an hour is not going to happen unless they are 2 aisles with 230 seats.
#38
Like I said before, an aircraft able to carry 250ish people that can fit comfortably into existing narrowbody gates and be turned faster than an 8 Max. It is the only compelling design I can think of that we'd want to be a launch customer for. It might not look all that different than what is already out there, and Boeing certainly made it seem that way this week in Paris.
However, I duly note the possibility that Boeing's marketing department might be dispensing bundles of chaff.
#39
Nope. I didn't say seven across, I assume at least 2+4+2 or greater (never more than one seat away from an aisle, that would be nice). If you take a gander at some of the advanced military airlifter concepts out there, lifting bodies are coming. I'm sure a 797 won't be a pure lifting body, but it will benefit from the subsidies... er, research.
Like I said before, an aircraft able to carry 250ish people that can fit comfortably into existing narrowbody gates and be turned faster than an 8 Max. It is the only compelling design I can think of that we'd want to be a launch customer for. It might not look all that different than what is already out there, and Boeing certainly made it seem that way this week in Paris.
However, I duly note the possibility that Boeing's marketing department might be dispensing bundles of chaff.
Like I said before, an aircraft able to carry 250ish people that can fit comfortably into existing narrowbody gates and be turned faster than an 8 Max. It is the only compelling design I can think of that we'd want to be a launch customer for. It might not look all that different than what is already out there, and Boeing certainly made it seem that way this week in Paris.
However, I duly note the possibility that Boeing's marketing department might be dispensing bundles of chaff.
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