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UALinIAH 07-07-2017 09:51 AM

New Displacement Out
 
The final one for both 747 and the IAH 787 base.

Over 40 747 FOs alone can hold 787 CA. It could get interesting. Best of luck to all.

untied 07-07-2017 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2390926)
The final one for both 747 and the IAH 787 base.

Over 40 747 FOs alone can hold 787 CA. It could get interesting. Best of luck to all.

Remember when all those junior CAL guys got 787 Captain due to the fences?

That's about to be fixed.:D

Lerxst 07-07-2017 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 2391211)
Remember when all those junior CAL guys got 787 Captain due to the fences?

That's about to be fixed.:D

Yeah, talk about unintended consequences...

Where's Sled, he's usually all over these BUMPITY BUMP BUMP announcements?!?

JoePatroni 07-07-2017 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 2391211)
Remember when all those junior CAL guys got 787 Captain due to the fences?

That's about to be fixed.:D


Goes to show how asinine the fences were in the first place.

intrepidcv11 07-08-2017 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 2391211)
Remember when all those junior CAL guys got 787 Captain due to the fences?

That's about to be fixed.:D

Remember when a few senior UAL guys demanded a fence for a dying widebody fleet due to some vague assumption of prestige? Remember how protecting that small minority screwed the vast majority of UAL pilots from a lot of productive WB flying as fleets shuffled? That's still being fixed. Hail the whale.

jsled 07-08-2017 06:35 AM

Remember all the shenanigans and deliberate foot dragging from the Cal Alpa side (like pay banding) while the Cal only upgrade parties were kicking? Well, gentlemen. I give you the Mother Of All Displacements. The MOAD. Senior individuals are about to trickle down like Reagan's voodoo economics. It will be both tragic and beautiful, akin to the Denver justice that took place 2 summers ago.

Release the hounds!!

INCOMING!!!

LOOK OUT BELOW!!!!! 😮😮

pilotgolfer 07-08-2017 06:53 AM

I don't get why this bid has to be open for so long...almost 3 weeks? Its not like these guys haven't had time to mull over their options.

GoCats67 07-08-2017 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2391357)
I don't get why this bid has to be open for so long...almost 3 weeks? Its not like these guys haven't had time to mull over their options.

I am guessing we may technically be in "reduction mode" based on some of the minimums in the recent bulletins. When you put the minimums as low as they did on the recent 777 CA vacancy (every 756 CA position at 20 below current staffing) you end up having a consequence of being in reduction mode?


8-E-5 The Company shall calculate the system-wide total Captain positions that are published
as the minimum number of Captain positions in each vacancy or displacement bulletin. If the
number of published minimum Captain positions has declined at any point in the six (6) month
period prior to and including the publication date of a displacement bulletin, the Company
shall be deemed to be in “reduction mode” when administering that displacement bulletin. If
there have been no other vacancy or displacement bulletins in the previous six (6) months,
the comparison shall be made between the published displacement bulletin and the most
recently published vacancy or displacement bulletin.

8-E-6-a Displacement bids shall be open for at least twenty (20) days after the publication
date of a displacement bulletin. If the Company is not in “reduction mode,” it may decrease
this twenty (20) day period to fourteen (14) days.

pilotgolfer 07-08-2017 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 2391371)
I am guessing we may technically be in "reduction mode" based on some of the minimums in the recent bulletins. When you put the minimums as low as they did on the recent 777 CA vacancy (every 756 CA position at 20 below current staffing) you end up having a consequence of being in reduction mode?


8-E-5 The Company shall calculate the system-wide total Captain positions that are published
as the minimum number of Captain positions in each vacancy or displacement bulletin. If the
number of published minimum Captain positions has declined at any point in the six (6) month
period prior to and including the publication date of a displacement bulletin, the Company
shall be deemed to be in “reduction mode” when administering that displacement bulletin. If
there have been no other vacancy or displacement bulletins in the previous six (6) months,
the comparison shall be made between the published displacement bulletin and the most
recently published vacancy or displacement bulletin.

8-E-6-a Displacement bids shall be open for at least twenty (20) days after the publication
date of a displacement bulletin. If the Company is not in “reduction mode,” it may decrease
this twenty (20) day period to fourteen (14) days.

Good catch...I hadn't read that section very closely.

svergin 07-08-2017 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 2391211)
Remember when all those junior CAL guys got 787 Captain due to the fences?

That's about to be fixed.:D

Even if they do get bumped out, which I doubt, it still worked. Those guys got good paying jobs for 4-5 years out of seniority because of the fence. The pilots who have already retired from those positions, or soon to retire, won't care what happens because they got to finish their career in the highest paying BES.


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