Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2441840)

Kirby doesn’t lie, his truths change. I’d wait for one of his shareholder presentations to see what he commits to publicly.

Hopefully they get them and they’re growth aircraft.

Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2441558)

If you have brake fans, you need brake fans. The fan shroud acts like a heat shield, and holds the brake heat in. Even in a light 319, low auto brakes, you get hot brakes. Pretty much every single time.

On a positive note, you don't hear APU's screaming on the ramp. On a negative note, that is because every single airbus on the ramp has dual SCREAMING brake fans on. They are louder and more obnoxious than the APU.

3 years flying the bus at UAL I think I got hot brakes 5 or 6 times. Hot and high? Put external fans on the ramp at those very few airports.

321's I am not sure. Maybe more useful. I only flew them with brake fans.

Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2441864)

Only reason the guppy doesn't get hot brakes is they didn't put a temp sensor on them. That POS would never get off the gate if they did.

Originally Posted by stis202 (Post 2441916)

Sure it has an indication. Brake chatter all the way to the gate.

Originally Posted by EwrRocks (Post 2441856)

The 1 thing he wants way more then used aircraft, is scope relief. He has said such lately.

Don't follow the carrot of new planes, because he really wants to whip us all with the stick of scope relief. Eye on the ball!

Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2441985)

Kirby is probably the best thing for the company in a while and the worse thing for the pilot group.

Skywest has an order in for 100 non-scope complaint E2 ERJs, and Kirby likely has a plan for using them in the United network.

Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2441844)

Interesting perspective, never thought of that.

The handful we fly without them do get hot brakes often, but they do seem to cool off faster too.

Yes, those things are obnoxiously loud.