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Old 10-02-2017 | 02:58 PM
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With today’s shutdown of Monarch over in the UK, there are 35 A320 types now with out a home. I believe they’re powered by the V2500s. Anyone have any insight as to whether we might be able to get our hands on those?


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Old 10-02-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Air Berlin is toast too......
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Old 10-02-2017 | 04:22 PM
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I thought Air Berlin was shut down too, but they were flying out of Munich two days ago......
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Old 10-02-2017 | 04:45 PM
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I thought Air Berlin was shut down too, but they were flying out of Munich two days ago......
My understanding is they are shutting down in phases......all the A330s have been parked
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Hmmm. Could be. All I remember seeing was A320s.
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Old 10-02-2017 | 08:12 PM
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Air Berlin is toast too......
True, but there has been a hell of a bidding war for their assets. Apparently lots of valuable slots in Germany. I truly don't know what assets Monarch has besides those aircraft. I've been seeing them a lot over the last 4 years while doing quite a bit of UK flying. This is why I was interested when I read about their shutdown.
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Old 10-02-2017 | 09:07 PM
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One of the many issues with a bidding war for assets, is if we by planes, in the past, pilots have come with them, or at least an interview. Could get interesting since probably not many US citizens, or green cards.
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
One of the many issues with a bidding war for assets, is if we by planes, in the past, pilots have come with them, or at least an interview. Could get interesting since probably not many US citizens, or green cards.
How many times in the past have we received used airplanes from a leasing company and the foreign pilots have come with?

The possible scenarios here are quite different than when UAL bought Pam Am’s entire pacific division down to the last spare wheel chock, for example.

If in doubt, I suppose we could ask one of the Chinese pilots that came with the used A319s.

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Old 10-03-2017 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ChalupaBatman
With today’s shutdown of Monarch over in the UK, there are 35 A320 types now with out a home. I believe they’re powered by the V2500s. Anyone have any insight as to whether we might be able to get our hands on those?


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Used Airbus are not in line with Kirby’s RJ expansion goals to increase domestic route profitability. Unless he sees a way to fit them into the system in a manner that’ll be worth something long term (how many more RJs can he get if he increases the # or mainline aircraft with such a purchase?) I wouldn’t bet on United moving to swoop in to buy them.
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Old 10-03-2017 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Used Airbus are not in line with Kirby’s RJ expansion goals to increase domestic route profitability. Unless he sees a way to fit them into the system in a manner that’ll be worth something long term (how many more RJs can he get if he increases the # or mainline aircraft with such a purchase?) I wouldn’t bet on United moving to swoop in to buy them.
These aircraft would get him no more RJs as they are used not new aircraft.
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