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Sunvox 11-01-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2458849)
I'm using Company Staffing.

. . .

But at the end of the day, it would seem that we have increased the fleet size by 49 but only the pilot group by 345 pilots. Why?-
Motch

Using the Min/Max bulletin and looking at active pilots we increased by 1000 pilots since 2014. Remember the Min/Max list counts actual active line pilots in each BES. I believe the list you are examining includes anyone with seniority rights and that includes pilots who are sick, furloughed, management, or otherwise not active on the line.

NYGiantsFan 11-01-2017 04:11 PM

Only way to bring more RJ's is to buy a regional and staple to the bottom... no way you can staff RJ flying at the regional level at its current state... cant even fill classes... you can bring all the RJ's to mainline. Otherwise, goodluck trying to fill the seats!

Freight Dawg 11-01-2017 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2458692)
I will donate $100 to a charity of your choice if you or anyone else remembers this post and UAL pilots do not have a new contract and a pay raise by Mar. 31st 2020.

Deal. If you're right I'll donate to the charity if your choice.

CLazarus 11-01-2017 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2458993)
Only way to bring more RJ's is to buy a regional and staple to the bottom... no way you can staff RJ flying at the regional level at its current state... cant even fill classes... you can bring all the RJ's to mainline. Otherwise, goodluck trying to fill the seats!

Watching this rumor thread stumble along, I've been thinking pretty much the same thing. We may technically be able to farm out more small RJ flying if we do increase mainline with used Airbii... but I don't know how they would ever recruit enough crews to fill the seats.

trip 11-01-2017 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan (Post 2458993)
Only way to bring more RJ's is to buy a regional and staple to the bottom... no way you can staff RJ flying at the regional level at its current state... cant even fill classes... you can bring all the RJ's to mainline. Otherwise, goodluck trying to fill the seats!

Should have been done years ago.

Probe 11-02-2017 12:08 AM

Somebody is going to do it. Not sure who. We created a "flow-through" but somebody is going to buy a regional. Maybe us. Then it should be a food fight to buy the rest of them.

davessn763 11-02-2017 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2458179)
Delta is NOT buying new aircraft. In fact ALL of their 717 were used from Air Tran.

SW is buying new MAXs but guess what so are we. our new MAXs start showing up in a few months.

Differing the 737-700s were not bad for the company. We have ordered used airbuses that so far equal a little less than 50% of the 737 order. We no longer have OLD technology we will be stuck with for 20+ years while everyone else runs around with new technology burning less fuel.

The only bad thing that happened to to the pilot group by the deferment of the 737 order was upward movement NOW. The MAX 10s will pay more in the long run and be cheaper for the company to operate. Not to mention there are now 100 of them on order instead of 65. Sounds like a win to me.

Delta is buying CS-100’s

davessn763 11-02-2017 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2458797)
When we're any of the bold items ever announced? There was never a NSNB attached to the extension, and there was never an announcement for NK 19's. You listen to way to much rumor. As for the 700's, they were deferred into higher paying 737 models. Which is a good thing.

You have read section one of the contract right? You under stand that they're shuffling deck chairs against the scope limits?

As for the Whales, they were coming up on heavy checks that were going to cost more than the airplanes were even worth. Something like $60m per hull just in labor is what I had heard. Hence why they're being parted out and cut up.

Do you remember the SPSC guys spouting the time value of money during the road shows?

How is not upgrading approximately 650 pilots this year to SNB pay worse than upgrading 650 pilots to LNB pay 3 years from now?

How about the new hires it would have generated?

This is basic math, money earned earlier in your career is always better.

I’m sticking with my original statement, anyway you look at it the cancellation(it was a cancellation we are never getting them)of the 65 737-700’s was bad for the pilot group, bad for the company.

Is there anyone of you that doesn’t think we aren’t going to be parking PW powered 757-200’s when the max’s show up?

Go look at the google fleet website and look at how old our fleet is. Do you think we are going to fly airplanes for 30+ years? Look at the backlog of orders at Boeing and airbus for narrow bodies. We are behind the power curve on renewing the narrowbody fleet, much less expanding it.

Dave Fitzgerald 11-02-2017 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by davessn763 (Post 2459161)
Delta is buying CS-100’s

I don't know how much longer Delta is going to be buying these. 220% tariff will be hard to swallow. If I were at Delta, I wouldn't be counting on these deliveries. :eek:

Shrek 11-02-2017 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 2459284)
I don't know how much longer Delta is going to be buying these. 220% tariff will be hard to swallow. If I were at Delta, I wouldn't be counting on these deliveries. :eek:

Won’t that be affected by the Airbus purchase of the CS program and a US manufacturing facility ?


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