Cage or Emerald
11-11-2017, 08:06 AM
#21
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I fully understand using them. I just think its BS. Not quite along the lines of buying term papers, but not far off. And because a career can easily span 30 years, these companies can charge whatever they want and guys will still line up.
When I interviewed the PR lady inquired three times what I did to prep. I have her the exact same laundry list after the first two. She then asked again. I thought that she was either hard of hearing, or that I was. This was one minute into the interview and she already had me on the ropes. In mild exasperation I said, "Oh do you mean did I go see Cheryl Cage?" Both she and the Captain smiled, though his smile was large and genuine.
I said no and told her why.
When I interviewed the PR lady inquired three times what I did to prep. I have her the exact same laundry list after the first two. She then asked again. I thought that she was either hard of hearing, or that I was. This was one minute into the interview and she already had me on the ropes. In mild exasperation I said, "Oh do you mean did I go see Cheryl Cage?" Both she and the Captain smiled, though his smile was large and genuine.
I said no and told her why.
11-11-2017, 08:44 AM
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Regularguy, I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, but;
Right. But that’s why they interview people 
Of the all the qualified a-holes, which of them can we sit next to for days on end
Like I said, I understand your point. But imagine if the world was like what Mako did? As in, just go in there and be an unrehearsed self?
We ALL KNOW those guys/girls that wouldn’t have gotten it otherwise. Whether it was the F2F prep, or shelling out the money for the sim ride and they STILL SUCKED AT FLYING.
The tactics/techniques from those days were, shall we say, “special”.
Originally Posted by Regularguy
Oldmako
I think on this you are living in a dream world. Yes it would be nice that only the “most” qualified get the job, but the problem is for every position there are at least 10 equally “most” qualified.
I think on this you are living in a dream world. Yes it would be nice that only the “most” qualified get the job, but the problem is for every position there are at least 10 equally “most” qualified.
Of the all the qualified a-holes, which of them can we sit next to for days on end
Personally I think the “most” qualified candidate takes advantage of every opportunity to improve and present themselves as a better choice for the position. If I were an interviewer I might even ask the candidate if they had used service to prepare for the interview. If their answer was “no” they had better shine a bit brighter than others for not showing the initiative to get help.
It’s almost like what we used to call CLR, showing a failure to use all their available resources. On the old CLR grid they may be a 9/1.
BTW I have nothing to do with any of these prep outfits, just making arm chair quarterback calls on this. When I got hired there weren’t any such services, just a book on the “stay-9” exam and I bought it.
It’s almost like what we used to call CLR, showing a failure to use all their available resources. On the old CLR grid they may be a 9/1.
BTW I have nothing to do with any of these prep outfits, just making arm chair quarterback calls on this. When I got hired there weren’t any such services, just a book on the “stay-9” exam and I bought it.
We ALL KNOW those guys/girls that wouldn’t have gotten it otherwise. Whether it was the F2F prep, or shelling out the money for the sim ride and they STILL SUCKED AT FLYING.
Originally Posted by oldmako
I just think its BS. Not quite along the lines of buying term papers, but not far off. And because a career can easily span 30 years, these companies can charge whatever they want and guys will still line up.
When I interviewed the PR lady inquired three times what I did to prep. I have her the exact same laundry list after the first two. She then asked again. I thought that she was either hard of hearing, or that I was. This was one minute into the interview and she already had me on the ropes. In mild exasperation I said, "Oh do you mean did I go see Cheryl Cage?" Both she and the Captain smiled, though his smile was large and genuine.
I said no and told her why.
When I interviewed the PR lady inquired three times what I did to prep. I have her the exact same laundry list after the first two. She then asked again. I thought that she was either hard of hearing, or that I was. This was one minute into the interview and she already had me on the ropes. In mild exasperation I said, "Oh do you mean did I go see Cheryl Cage?" Both she and the Captain smiled, though his smile was large and genuine.
I said no and told her why.
11-11-2017, 09:06 AM
#23
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Being for United I would 100 % suggest Caige , I used her twice for Jetblue and United and was successful both times. The interview at Delta Fedex and United are all diferent. That being said Caige is WAY more set up for a HR focused interview which is a mojaroty of what United does now. She doesn't go over the tech side of it . Which you can read gouge online .
Delta or Fedex I would say Emerald Coast
Best of luck
Delta or Fedex I would say Emerald Coast
Best of luck
11-11-2017, 11:13 AM
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I did no prep except for 737 sim time, and felt beyond prepared. I almost had a feeling I would over think things if I did. Like taking jacket off when asked (which I did) and things along that line. Reviewed tmat questions vigorously though. With that said I would never direct someone against overpreparing and Cage would be my choice for United.
11-11-2017, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Like I said, I understand your point. But imagine if the world was like what Mako did? As in, just go in there and be an unrehearsed self?
My point is the prep for the interview these days is as important as the flying experience. Yes some people are just naturals, maybe, but most of us need a bit of refinement.
We don’t live in the world we think we’d like and pilots don’t become A/Hs when they move from the right to the left.
Even though mako did not take a course I’ll bet he didn’t step in cold either.
How many of us got interviewed and hired in jeans, t-shirts and flip flops?
Yes you all had that special suit and tie!
11-11-2017, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
That sounds like a Beatles song and after 40+ years it also never happened.
My point is the prep for the interview these days is as important as the flying experience. Yes some people are just naturals, maybe, but most of us need a bit of refinement.
We don’t live in the world we think we’d like and pilots don’t become A/Hs when they move from the right to the left.
Even though mako did not take a course I’ll bet he didn’t step in cold either.
How many of us got interviewed and hired in jeans, t-shirts and flip flops?
Yes you all had that special suit and tie!
My point is the prep for the interview these days is as important as the flying experience. Yes some people are just naturals, maybe, but most of us need a bit of refinement.
We don’t live in the world we think we’d like and pilots don’t become A/Hs when they move from the right to the left.
Even though mako did not take a course I’ll bet he didn’t step in cold either.
How many of us got interviewed and hired in jeans, t-shirts and flip flops?
Yes you all had that special suit and tie!
It was more a hypothetical.
11-12-2017, 02:42 PM
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As previously mentioned, Cage's Book "Checklist..." is a good thing to invest in. What I found most valuable were the exercises in the book that had you recall certain flights/events in your history that had some significance to you. At first, it seemed difficult to recall more than a couple of flights that were memorable, but over a week or two, you can recall quite a few events. During the interview, those specific flights can be used for the "tell me about a time you... " portion. Best advice, be genuine and truthful.
11-13-2017, 07:26 AM
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Both sides
Since there are pilots and HR folks in the United interview--I found it extremely helpful that I had prepped with both at EC. Each of the sides had a little something diff they were looking for. To Mako's point, I never felt like I was getting Cliff Notes--just some advice on how to make sure I was able to convey the points about me and my career that I wanted them to know.
Got the job so I'm a big Emerald Coast fan!
Got the job so I'm a big Emerald Coast fan!
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