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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 2581796)
We are growing WB flying but also remember UAL has the highest number of WB aircraft as a percent of total fleet of all the majors.
I’m going off a google search so I could be wrong but I see AMR - 67 777s/35 787s. 950 total DAL - 18 777s/9 A350s. 871 total UAL - 90 777s/37 787s. 748 total DAL has a HUGE number of NB hence the crazy junior NB CAs. UAL is a substantially higher number of WBs so our WB FO goes very junior. I purposely left out other WB like 767 and A330s because although our -400s pay top rate, others don’t and it’s a small percentage of our fleet. AA has 24 A330s which lay the same as 777/787. They are also replacing 31 767s with 787. So about 150/950 airplanes will pay the highest rates. |
Originally Posted by Half wing
(Post 2582518)
Absolutely counting reserve days not called as days off. My phone is on 18 days a month but I know the day before if I will have to commute out. For March I worked 3 days. It would be hard for me to go back to the SouthWest style death march 14 or 16 days of work a month.
A 20 yr. 777 fo is getting a minimum of 18 days off a month unless he wants to work more. The only people working that much choose to...and if they are they are seeing north of 140+ credit per month. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2582358)
That's equivalent to 113.2 TFP in a month at Southwest 5th year FO payscale.
A classmate of mine lives in DEN and bids reserve by choice. Simply due to work rules, he's at 118 TFP this month having worked 9 days and having 15 days off (phone off) total. In other words... if he were a 5th-year guy ($135/tfp), he would have made slightly more. Should he choose to, he could fly more and make a lot more... hence the question whether United WB FO's can choose to fly more other than just depending on 75 hour guarantee. Like ANG says, work rules/rigs make all the difference in the world. At SWA you’ll never have another option either. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2582626)
The difference between your friend and half wings example.... is the SWA guys have to hustle for it. WB FO your effort goes into not going to work and making that money from home (or your boat, golf course, etc).
At SWA you’ll never have another option either. I hustle, so I average 150 TFP per month. A reserve here credits 110-130 without picking up a single extra day of work, and that’s what I used for comparison. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2582682)
Not exactly.
I hustle, so I average 150 TFP per month. A reserve here credits 110-130 without picking up a single extra day of work, and that’s what I used for comparison. |
Originally Posted by Half wing
(Post 2582689)
That sounds terrible.
To me what sounds terrible is flying on the back side of the clock. Doesn't matter where you layover on a WB, odds are you're working the back side of the clock at some point. I don't even like doing flights before noon....which makes the AM/PM schedule such a perk. |
You guys are all saying the same stuff over and over again. We get it, you love SWA and we love UAL. Best of luck to those that get to decide between the two. Both are going to be awesome jobs.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
(Post 2582758)
I'll work 2-3 day trips with 1-3 legs a day avg.
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2582537)
AA has 24 A330s which lay the same as 777/787. They are also replacing 31 767s with 787.
So about 150/950 airplanes will pay the highest rates. So AMR has 126/950 UAL has 127/748 Your point was? |
Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 2582833)
We also have larger orders but I didn’t include those. If you want to include the 330s that’s fine.
So AMR has 126/950 UAL has 127/748 Your point was? My point? To correct your post that had incorrect information. You said you left out the a330s bc they don’t pay the top rate. That’s wrong for AA. They pay the same as the 777/787. I mentioned the 787 orders bc a lot of them are to replace lower-paying 767s. Calm down and don’t be a tool. I was just trying to help correct your bad info. |
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