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Old 04-30-2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
In 2018, it's 14.2%. In 2019, it's at 15%.

Now, our ProfitSharing plan is actually a qualified retirement account. This enables our more junior pilots to max out their retirement account sooner. I managed to do it last year as a 1-2 year FO who hustled.

I grossed 170k last year. The company put in $24k into my B-fund. I maxed out my personal 401k contribution at 18k. That put me at 42k retirement contribution prior to PS being announced. The PS was 11.37% so in my case, I got $19k in PS, but since IRS 415c limits last year were $54,000 if under 50, I maxed it out my retirement contribution and had an excess of a little over 7k which I took as cash.

Our B-plan/NEC rate was 13.4% last year.



For those with valor license plates, the parking, at least in my domicile is free right at the terminal. Guys using Spot usually pay a little under $5/day after discount, Dallas crews don't pay anything, not sure about other bases.

As for food, we do get international per diem if we fly an international leg, and they actually feed us on those if they're turns. Interestingly, suppose you do an international turn and then press on for 3 more days domestic, you're still getting international per diem the whole trip which is $2.80. Otherwise, it's $2.30. You're right though... we do spend money in terminals. Some guys bring food from home... Are you guys generally happy with your crew meal selection?
Thanks for the info. Yes, I’m pretty happy with crew meal selection. Occasionally I get something I don’t like but ordering prior to each trip is nice domestically as you can really change things up. I haven’t flown true international in a while but imagine they are happy. Meals are something I can honestly say we get right! I’ve got the waistline to prove it...
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Old 04-30-2018 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Amen to that! But just the mere fact that we are arguing over literally tip money shows what tightwads and cheapskates airline pilots are...
True. As well as the TRUE STATE of how much better we’re off vs not too long ago.

The same guys boasting about all we have are probably the same ones that during the bankruptcy would say “I came here, my buddy went to SW and upgraded in a couple years. I shoulda gone to SW”.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 09:42 AM
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True. As well as the TRUE STATE of how much better we’re off vs not too long ago.

The same guys boasting about all we have are probably the same ones that during the bankruptcy would say “I came here, my buddy went to SW and upgraded in a couple years. I shoulda gone to SW”.


Very true. In the end, we will know if we made the right decision at our retirement party.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Take SWA now and see what happens with UAL down the road if it even happens. Just keep it to yourself while at SWA. JMO
This ^^^^^^ definitely.
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Old 05-02-2018 | 03:44 PM
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Do your due diligence as if you were an investor. I wish I had when UAL came calling in '99.
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Old 05-02-2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Guard Police
Do your due diligence as if you were an investor. I wish I had when UAL came calling in '99.
If anyone has that much foresight they’ll do much better off playing the lottery.
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Old 05-02-2018 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Guard Police
Do your due diligence as if you were an investor. I wish I had when UAL came calling in '99.
In 1999, guys were leaving SW and DAL (among others) to come to UAL. Due diligence? Who were you going to ask, Joan Quigley?
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Old 05-02-2018 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Very true. In the end, we will know if we made the right decision at our retirement party.
And sometimes not even then.

2006 - "Tom Martin is 68 years old. After 30 years on the job, he retired as a United Airlines pilot eight years ago. When United UAL, -0.67% filed bankruptcy and then turned over its pension plan in October, his check shrunk by about 40%."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ti...nated-pensions
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Old 05-03-2018 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Guard Police
Do your due diligence as if you were an investor. I wish I had when UAL came calling in '99.
Just like the market...timing is everything.
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Old 03-24-2022 | 08:03 AM
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It's 2022 ... a lot has happened since 2018.

I'm curious what the opinions of SWA vs. UAL are today with everything that's happened and currently going on in the U.S. and throughout the world.
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