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KickedPancake 03-08-2018 08:21 AM

Ord Seniority
 
First post...so treat me gently :).

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and

2. Best educated guess on which airline has the best opportunity for moving up the ranks of seniority at ORD most quickly.

Realize that part 2 is a bit of a "crystal ball" question but invite educated opinions. Even uneducated ones are welcome as long as they are funny.

Also realize that you might be only able to speak for one, not both of the companies wrt seniority but appreciate any info out there.

Thanks!

89Pistons 03-08-2018 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by KickedPancake (Post 2546062)
First post...so treat me gently :).

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and


Congrats on having the offers in hand. Do you have class dates at both? I know it's cliche' to say go with the one that gives you a seniority number first but in your case that phrase certainly applies.

KickedPancake 03-08-2018 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2546142)
Congrats on having the offers in hand. Do you have class dates at both? I know it's cliche' to say go with the one that gives you a seniority number first but in your case that phrase certainly applies.


Nope...no offers. Idle hypothetical question. Mulling a career change from corporate to airline. Appreciate any insight. Trying to understand how senior the respective pilot pool is at ORD domicile. From a different posting it sounds like American is very senior in Chicago.

Half wing 03-08-2018 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by KickedPancake (Post 2546190)
Nope...no offers. Idle hypothetical question. Mulling a career change from corporate to airline. Appreciate any insight. Trying to understand how senior the respective pilot pool is at ORD domicile. From a different posting it sounds like American is very senior in Chicago.

Could be wrong but I think it has been taking about a year for a new hire to get to ord. Can’t remember which one is more senior, 320 or 737. Moving target anyway by the time you get on property. Going forward, I think UA will dominate AA even more in ord. Hope I didn’t just jinx it.

Boulderian 03-08-2018 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by KickedPancake (Post 2546062)
First post...so treat me gently :).

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and

2. Best educated guess on which airline has the best opportunity for moving up the ranks of seniority at ORD most quickly.

Realize that part 2 is a bit of a "crystal ball" question but invite educated opinions. Even uneducated ones are welcome as long as they are funny.

Also realize that you might be only able to speak for one, not both of the companies wrt seniority but appreciate any info out there.

Thanks!

I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.

89Pistons 03-08-2018 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 2546226)
Going forward, I think UA will dominate AA even more in ord.

What exactly makes you think that?

Half wing 03-08-2018 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2546528)
What exactly makes you think that?

I’m basing it solely on the reliable artist’s sketched rendition of the new ord terminal. I’m counting way more blue planes then red planes.;)

KickedPancake 03-08-2018 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Boulderian (Post 2546506)
I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.

Boulderian, thanks. That was the kind of insider observation I was looking for. Cheers.

JoePatroni 03-08-2018 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Boulderian (Post 2546506)
I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.

Rather than just EWR, we like to refer to it as “Newark-By-The-Sea.” :D

svergin 03-08-2018 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2546577)
Rather than just EWR, we like to refer to it as “Newark-By-The-Sea.” :D

Not offended. EWR is the largest airport in the state of New Jersey. Very proud of that.


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