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Old 03-08-2018 | 08:21 AM
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First post...so treat me gently .

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and

2. Best educated guess on which airline has the best opportunity for moving up the ranks of seniority at ORD most quickly.

Realize that part 2 is a bit of a "crystal ball" question but invite educated opinions. Even uneducated ones are welcome as long as they are funny.

Also realize that you might be only able to speak for one, not both of the companies wrt seniority but appreciate any info out there.

Thanks!
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Old 03-08-2018 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KickedPancake
First post...so treat me gently .

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and

Congrats on having the offers in hand. Do you have class dates at both? I know it's cliche' to say go with the one that gives you a seniority number first but in your case that phrase certainly applies.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
Congrats on having the offers in hand. Do you have class dates at both? I know it's cliche' to say go with the one that gives you a seniority number first but in your case that phrase certainly applies.

Nope...no offers. Idle hypothetical question. Mulling a career change from corporate to airline. Appreciate any insight. Trying to understand how senior the respective pilot pool is at ORD domicile. From a different posting it sounds like American is very senior in Chicago.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KickedPancake
Nope...no offers. Idle hypothetical question. Mulling a career change from corporate to airline. Appreciate any insight. Trying to understand how senior the respective pilot pool is at ORD domicile. From a different posting it sounds like American is very senior in Chicago.
Could be wrong but I think it has been taking about a year for a new hire to get to ord. Can’t remember which one is more senior, 320 or 737. Moving target anyway by the time you get on property. Going forward, I think UA will dominate AA even more in ord. Hope I didn’t just jinx it.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KickedPancake
First post...so treat me gently .

Hypothetical situation - you want to be domiciled in Chicago and had an offer in hand from both American and United:

1. What is the relative seniority of the ORD domicile within each airline and

2. Best educated guess on which airline has the best opportunity for moving up the ranks of seniority at ORD most quickly.

Realize that part 2 is a bit of a "crystal ball" question but invite educated opinions. Even uneducated ones are welcome as long as they are funny.

Also realize that you might be only able to speak for one, not both of the companies wrt seniority but appreciate any info out there.

Thanks!
I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Half wing
Going forward, I think UA will dominate AA even more in ord.
What exactly makes you think that?
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Old 03-08-2018 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
What exactly makes you think that?
I’m basing it solely on the reliable artist’s sketched rendition of the new ord terminal. I’m counting way more blue planes then red planes.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boulderian
I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.
Boulderian, thanks. That was the kind of insider observation I was looking for. Cheers.
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Old 03-08-2018 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boulderian
I was in that situation along with a few others here (both job offers). For Chicago residents United is a much better deal. Things can change, but there are people with less than 4 years of seniority in all Chicago equipment right seat, including the 777.

Timing is everything. I had to commute to EWR for over a year, but some guys made in to Chicago in less than 6 months on the bus.
Rather than just EWR, we like to refer to it as “Newark-By-The-Sea.”
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Old 03-08-2018 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Rather than just EWR, we like to refer to it as “Newark-By-The-Sea.”
Not offended. EWR is the largest airport in the state of New Jersey. Very proud of that.
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