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UALinIAH 04-15-2018 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2572694)
Before you refuse that jet make sure you have that conference call with anyone and everyone. After you refuse that jet make sure you fill out that IOR. Hahaha.

Pre merger UA a CA simply refused and moved to the next plane. It wasn’t UA management who drove the new company in this direction.

Not trying to play CAL/UA here, just the managements. Union labor doesn’t make those asinine policies, suites who are trying to save a penny do.

PowderFinger 04-15-2018 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2572781)
Pre merger UA a CA simply refused and moved to the next plane. It wasn’t UA management who drove the new company in this direction.

Not trying to play CAL/UA here, just the managements. Union labor doesn’t make those asinine policies, suites who are trying to save a penny do.

Same here ... Pre merger I was never questioned on shooting down a plane and no paperwork was ever required. Different times ... And like above not CAL/UA ... Just management.

Slaphappy 04-15-2018 12:38 PM

Say what you want but Kirby is the best addition to ual in decades.

RomeoHotel 04-15-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2572799)
Say what you want but Kirby is the best addition to ual in decades.

Thanks Scott, appreciate your input...

oldmako 04-15-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2572799)
Say what you want but Kirby is the best addition to ual in decades.

While I appreciate all his supposed smarts and business acumen, that cake is far from baked. It may flop. And when one considers the opinions of our bros at American/USAir, coupled with his overt and flimsy push to add RJ's here, it makes your claim even more dubious. He's preaching to a wide audience and it doesn't end with just us. I hope he doesn't think we're that gullible.

While I understand and appreciate his aim, to boil it down, he's got the big wally for the little jet in order to fill the banks. And as we all know, the RJ has done as much harm to the mainline end the profession as Lorena did to John's junk. Let's revisit this topic in say, five years. Perhaps ten. History has a way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

baseball 04-15-2018 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2572799)
Say what you want but Kirby is the best addition to ual in decades.

I really can't find a good track record for Mr. Kirby. None of the former employers he's had have given him glowing reviews post his departure.

If he had the "Midas Touch", likely American would not have let him go.

He knows scope is not for sale. Yet, he keeps pressing the test button. Is that because he's the best addition to UAL in decades or because he just wants to p1$$ off the pilots just for fun?

I am not seeing a great track record for him. Wondering why AA let him go?

In my thinking...."The best predictor of future performance is past performance."

PowderFinger 04-15-2018 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2572931)
I really can't find a good track record for Mr. Kirby. None of the former employers he's had have given him glowing reviews post his departure.

If he had the "Midas Touch", likely American would not have let him go.

He knows scope is not for sale. Yet, he keeps pressing the test button. Is that because he's the best addition to UAL in decades or because he just wants to p1$$ off the pilots just for fun?

I am not seeing a great track record for him. Wondering why AA let him go?

In my thinking...."The best predictor of future performance is past performance."

AA probably let him go for competitive advantage knowing he would go to UAL.

Regularguy 04-15-2018 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by PowderFinger (Post 2572935)
AA probably let him go for competitive advantage knowing he would go to UAL.


:D:D
Now that’s funny!!!

Worth the whole long thread

Airway 04-15-2018 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by PowderFinger (Post 2572935)
AA probably let him go for competitive advantage knowing he would go to UAL.

Man I sure hope not. Funny nonetheless.

Zenofzin 04-16-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2572694)
Before you refuse that jet make sure you have that conference call with anyone and everyone. After you refuse that jet make sure you fill out that IOR. Hahaha.


I’ve never heard of anyone with reasonable concerns being pushed into taking an airplane, I’ve called the FODM on a few occasions and received nothing but great help and feedback. I have heard guys refusing an airplane for the ACARS or other trivial items being inop, IMHO that warrants a conference call.....


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