Hilltopper89

This is a very, very simple equation for 95% of new hires. 756 is a notoriously great airplane with great flying...but not at the new hire level. Just don’t do it. By way of example I’ve been here 5 years. I am 38% in a junior base on the 73. At other bases in the 73 I’d vary between 24% (SFO) and 65% (DEN). On the 320 I’d be far more senior with the highest being 13% in EWR (27% in SFO). On the other hand the highest I’d be on 756 in SFO 39% and DCA 55%. You will get people that defend it to the death here and I totally get it. But for anyone junior it’s a no brainer. After 5 years I could have 18-22 days off working turns on a NB or perhaps 14 days off in a good month going to London all the time on a WB. I’m not arguing the airplane or the flying. Nobody disaparages either. I’m 100% positive the average day on those kills the average NB day. But the fact of the matter is..if you take the 756 as a new hire you are basically guaranteed 2 years of reserve. Your classmates going to SFO will be lineholders almost immediately. That fits for a small subset of us. If that’s you, please do it. The bottom line is 756 for almost all of us will lead to a worse...probably much worse...quality of life. Make your choice...but there’s a reason 756 is most junior for new hires. Choose with caution. For perspective: I wouldn’t even consider bidding it at my 5 year point. 39% best case (SFO), 91% (DEN), versus 13% NB (EWR) versus very close to NB CA (SFO). IMO unless you live in base and don’t need the money 756 FO anywhere is stupid for a junior person. My 2 cents if you’re west coast is to take a NB position then bid to a WB at some point. The only WB which makes sense to me right now is 756 SFO. If you’re there...consider it. Else, shy away. Experts and others who hate the NBs, flame away.

Andy

You'd be (IMO) insane to do that. Bid either 737 or 320 in EWR. Then put in for 756 EWR on your vacancy bid screen. EWR 756 is supposed to be some of the best flying in the system so I'd be all over that if I lived near EWR. On the other hand, LAX and SFO 756 are supposed to be some of the worst flying in the system.

rightside02

If your commuting jump on the 737/320 if your local esp to the west coast I would be all over that 757 and just do rescerve from home . Sure you ll Ben making 73 hours +\ - while your line holding buddies are making More , but man QOL will be great working WAY WAY WAY less than them doing short calls from home.

Local guys it’s great gig from what I gather .

Ps. I also commuted on reserve , clearly it’s not pefered but doable . I got plenty of nights at home (much more than expected, everyone has a dif story

ugleeual

^^^THIS^^^

Not to mention you will almost never sit in the right seat of a real plane... meaning landings class and more scrutiny during probationary year. Take the 756 if no other aircraft available at your domicile of choice. You can always bid to 756 without a freeze... no reason to do it voluntarily for your first plane.

HuggyU2

I don't understand this statement. Can you elaborate?

Chuck D

No the poster - but did that while jr. for a bit. Only plusses IMO are it's quickest 757 way to a line (has been maybe 1-1.5 years before but not sure about now) and lots of productive 1 leg transcon days and some islands. One could also theoretically pick up (but also commute to) the occasional open time Europe or S.A. trip or luck into some interesting repo flights.

That being said, I still don't consider it a better jr option to the 737 overall - but your intact scalp, non-warped spine and undamaged rollaboard might thank you

Hilltopper89

Sure. It’s the only WB that I’d have any decent seniority on. But I’m on the east coast so I’m not heading to SFO. That said, I made that statement simply based on seniority. I am not familiar with SFO 756 flying. As far as a new hire goes...I made that statement simply because it’s the most junior WB in the system. If a new hire is dead set on a WB out of training that is currently the quickest way to a WB line. I wouldn’t commute to reserve, thus the statement to shy away unless they live locally.

Hilltopper89

Exactly. Quickest way to a WB Line.

Winston

Except that SFO 756 flying has exactly ZERO 767 flying so it wouldn’t be a widebody line. Just a lower paying, worse variety, worse seniority NB line.

I’d be 76% on the 75 vs. the 40% I am on the 73. No thank you.

Galaxy5

Check out an award, it’s actually SFO 757 flying. No WB flying here.