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Andy 04-13-2019 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2800782)
No thank you. Your previous posts snarky and inaccurate rejoinder persuaded me to skip taking the trouble.

There were numerous threads here and in particular, the union forum which spelled them all out. Guys a whole lot more erudite than me detailed the zits. But, it passed and it's now history. When was that, 7 years ago? And how far are we away from our next contract? And please, let's not forget what was going on at the time which encouraged a whole mess of the pilot group to push for a concessionary JCBA. "We'll get em next time!"

The FNG's might be interested in how we got here, even though many of the older guys are not.

Try a search.

That's because you and I have disagreements on some of what you consider problematic areas of the current contract with respect to reserve rules. I've responded with my point of view on those items. I'll accept the snarky label but will disagree once again with you on the inaccuracy of my rebuttals.

As for snarkiness, how do you classify your oft-used phrase 'marvin mainliner'?

Andy 04-13-2019 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2802144)
Doing anything for them, including a nice “retro pay” or signing bonus buys zero good will for mgt, cause they’re soon gone.

Retro pay? Signing bonus? When's the last time any airline contract saw such things? When's the last time a UAL or CAL contract had retro or a signing bonus?

oldmako 04-13-2019 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2802279)
That's because you and I have disagreements on some of what you consider problematic areas of the current contract with respect to reserve rules. I've responded with my point of view on those items. I'll accept the snarky label but will disagree once again with you on the inaccuracy of my rebuttals.

As for snarkiness, how do you classify your oft-used phrase 'marvin mainliner'?

There were more than just reserve rules.

Marvin is not my phrase, just one I learned about in 1999. If the shoe fits then I'll use it.

JoePatroni 04-13-2019 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2802281)
Retro pay? Signing bonus? When's the last time any airline contract saw such things? When's the last time a UAL or CAL contract had retro or a signing bonus?


Delta's last contract had retro, as did Continental's Contract '97...the second to last one.

Andy 04-14-2019 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2802291)
There were more than just reserve rules.

Then your memory on the discussion is better than mine.

Andy 04-14-2019 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2802523)
Delta's last contract had retro, as did Continental's Contract '97...the second to last one.

You are correct on Delta. Looks like Jan-Nov 2016 for retro.


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