Last email I got said the lec's had been briefed and call them, I did didn't sound like significant progress. The one before that showed the areas still open, yes the bigger stuff. It was supposed to be done the end of 2018 if I remember and many on here seemed to think it would be done. April 9th I don't see it.

Pick up all you want at what % you would like, I just think I would rather start letting them know how we feel. But hey maybe that's just how I feel.

Since you seem to indicate there is progress do you have an official email or posting you can quote?

I think our contract is pretty damn good, along with most guys I work with. I’ll continue trying to do my job the best I can, a new contract with some tweeks and improvements will come. Maybe a retro check along with it. Don’t lose sight of the fact this is a pretty great job, enjoy it a little instead of letting that early 2000 UAL mindset be a constant chip on your shoulder.

I've been listening to your type of tripe for over 30 years. My point remains unchanged. Sadly, most pilots are so enamored with the fact that they have cool jobs that they willingly sell their services on the cheap. In my first decade, I was one of them. But my tenure and experiences have changed my tune. There is no chip on my shoulder, only lessons learned.

Adjusted for inflation, we are in arrears of our peers' earnings despite that fact that we no longer have a pension. That you and others feel that this is okay means nothing to me. Yes, it's a great job. That's precisely why I busted my a$$ to get it. But that doesn't mean that we should do it at a discount. Cool factor doesn't pay bills nor fund retirements. Tweaks won't cut it. Significant improvements will be a good start.

The current contract is loaded with bogus loopholes and concessionary gimmies. None of which were necessary and all of which were agreed to just to get a deal done in exchange for an acceptable hourly rate. We were negotiating in extremis. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to plug the loopholes when the opportunities arrive. Oh wait, one already did. We gave Smisek a pile of money while he trashed the airline simply to stop the Blue vs Black whip-sawing. Now, SK is trying to poop-chute your contract with more RJ flying and guys are willing to play nice as they speculate on their PS check 6 months in advance.

Carry on Marvins. And when we get that full retro check, I'll eat mine.

Let me re-state it for you.

Scabs feel they saved the airline. So, they are pretty happy to keep saving the airline over and over and over and over.

let it go?

NAH....I won't do that. Not til the last scab is gone.

Lots of scabs out there who won't run the APU for passenger and crew comfort. Lots of scabs wont use ACARS to check weather cuz it costs the company money. Plenty of scabs are so beholding they are always beholding.....It is what it is.

I’ve flown with plenty of people who were hired well after the strike, and from both of the previous companies, who do the same thing. Most of the scabs that I have flown with you would never know without looking at the list. I’ve been based in IAH for going on 15 years and having a certain date of hire has nothing to do with it. Some people are just like that.

Very well said Sir
Live and learn is something that people should accept

By about 25% measured from 2002 LUAL numbers.

Amen Mako !!

Sadly it passed due to the rightly or wrongly perceived whipsawing but it is what it is.

Nicely said Mako!