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El Guapo 06-17-2018 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatorr (Post 2616128)
Yup SRM is dead until we negotiate it to 200%........

Do any other airlines have 200% trips?

Brahma Fear 06-19-2018 02:52 AM

I was called absurdly early this morning by scheduling. I didn’t answer but on the VM they said they were junior manning. I looked at the trip in open time and it showed 50%. There is no definition of junior manning in the contract that I could find. Did they really call unprompted at 4am to offer 50%??? I’m sure there are people on the SRM list that would have loved the early phone call. I have a long drive today pulling a camper and now I’m out 2 hours of sleep. Is this PDR worthy. I’m kinda ****ed.

rightside02 06-19-2018 04:01 AM

We’re you in the SRM list ? And yeah I haven’t seen a SRM call for only 50 percent. Def weak sauce ... although pdr may not be worthy

UALinIAH 06-19-2018 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2617135)
I was called absurdly early this morning by scheduling. I didn’t answer but on the VM they said they were junior manning. I looked at the trip in open time and it showed 50%. There is no definition of junior manning in the contract that I could find. Did they really call unprompted at 4am to offer 50%??? I’m sure there are people on the SRM list that would have loved the early phone call. I have a long drive today pulling a camper and now I’m out 2 hours of sleep. Is this PDR worthy. I’m kinda ****ed.

20-H-5-c-(3). They can contact people not on the SRM list to try to cover a trip. This used to be called JRM at sUAL. The term was dropped though.

Brahma Fear 06-19-2018 04:36 AM

20-H-5 is titled Senior Manning. Senior Manning by definition is 100% add pay. This trip was 50%. I don’t see where they can contact me for a 50% add pay trip.

20-H-5-a
“The SRM process described in this section may only be applied to a lineholder premimium pay trip that has 100% add pay attached.”

What I am really concerned about is the company doesn’t want to offer SRM and are calling folks to try and get them to take 50% add pay. I personally don’t care if someone wants to pick up a 50% add pay trip. I don’t want 4am phone calls for it when there are plenty of people who would do it at 100% add pay. If they no one on the SRM list wants the trip and it is 100% add pay then they can call.

UALinIAH 06-19-2018 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2617170)
20-H-5 is titled Senior Manning. Senior Manning by definition is 100% add pay. This trip was 50%. I don’t see where they can contact me for a 50% add pay trip.

20-H-5-a
“The SRM process described in this section may only be applied to a lineholder premimium pay trip that has 100% add pay attached.”

What I am really concerned about is the company doesn’t want to offer SRM and are calling folks to try and get them to take 50% add pay. I personally don’t care if someone wants to pick up a 50% add pay trip. I don’t want 4am phone calls for it when there are plenty of people who would do it at 100% add pay. If they no one on the SRM list wants the trip and it is 100% add pay then they can call.

If you were called it’s 100%. They can place it in Open time with 50/75/100. But if they pick up the phone to use 20-H it pays 100% no matter what they have tagged it for in open time.

robthree 06-19-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2617135)
I was called absurdly early this morning by scheduling. I didn’t answer but on the VM they said they were junior manning. I looked at the trip in open time and it showed 50%. There is no definition of junior manning in the contract that I could find. Did they really call unprompted at 4am to offer 50%??? I’m sure there are people on the SRM list that would have loved the early phone call. I have a long drive today pulling a camper and now I’m out 2 hours of sleep. Is this PDR worthy. I’m kinda ****ed.


This happened to me once when I was a newhire, barely off IOE, one of the most junior guys in base. As I understand it, once they have exhausted the SRM list, they start with the junior line holder and start calling up the list to try to cover the trip. 20-I-9, it would have paid you +100% add pay.
What BES?

rightside02 06-19-2018 12:47 PM

I agree. I have been called SRM for 100 percent , looked at CC and it wasn’t only listed as 50 , maybe that was your situation

Brahma Fear 06-19-2018 03:52 PM

ORD. I’m fine with it as long as they were calling for 100% add pay. I get they need to cover the trip. As long as they weren’t calling trying to sell 50% I’ll take the early wake up.

fanaticalflyer 06-21-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2617135)
I was called absurdly early this morning by scheduling. I didn’t answer but on the VM they said they were junior manning. I looked at the trip in open time and it showed 50%. There is no definition of junior manning in the contract that I could find. Did they really call unprompted at 4am to offer 50%??? I’m sure there are people on the SRM list that would have loved the early phone call. I have a long drive today pulling a camper and now I’m out 2 hours of sleep. Is this PDR worthy. I’m kinda ****ed.

I believe you can opt out of early morning calls in your preferences.


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