Rsv show time after days off clarified please
06-26-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02
That’s great gouge ..!!! Some great examples . You think you could email that to me or where can I scoop that. Got some pals starting here soon and would love to forward that to them.
06-26-2018, 10:00 PM
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Beautiful gouge. Thank you
I have never once in my entire 19 year airline career answered my phone when scheduling has called. Reserve or not. I ALWAYS let it go to VM. Then I call them back. Even if it’s been a company number other than scheduling.
I have never once in my entire 19 year airline career answered my phone when scheduling has called. Reserve or not. I ALWAYS let it go to VM. Then I call them back. Even if it’s been a company number other than scheduling.
06-27-2018, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by IHateYou
Beautiful gouge. Thank you
I have never once in my entire 19 year airline career answered my phone when scheduling has called. Reserve or not. I ALWAYS let it go to VM. Then I call them back. Even if it’s been a company number other than scheduling.
I have never once in my entire 19 year airline career answered my phone when scheduling has called. Reserve or not. I ALWAYS let it go to VM. Then I call them back. Even if it’s been a company number other than scheduling.
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06-27-2018, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fadec
So where are most commuters on long call in the middle of reserve days after dinner? I'm 30 minutes from MCO with 2 evening departures at 9:55 and 2 morning flights that arrive EWR by 8:35. So if I got a 12hr call for an 8:30am show it would be a rush but doable. I take it many places don't work that way, and some guys drive an hour or more after their commute. It would be nice to have something like the 10am rule for long call. 13 to 14 hours notice between 6pm and 10pm would be nice.
06-27-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Prudent commuter policy doesn’t apply to reserves. You get a reserve assignment you can’t make you’re out of position.
06-28-2018, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
Untrue. 21-P specifically addresses reserve duty in commuter policy.
But, I think you need to be careful on what that means. If you can't commute to your Base to begin your Days of availability, I think 21-P covers you. However, sitting away from your Base during your days of availability (on Long Call) and hoping for an assignment that works is a risk, and if you can't make it, I don't think 21-P gives you the protection that you are looking for.
If you don't think Long Call is part of your reserve duty, I think you are wrong. While I am extremely doubtful that somebody could ever be such a problem to end up in front of board over this issue, I don't think you want to try to convince an arbitrator that it is "ok" to be so far away that you couldn't make a trip (obviously multiple times if you are at a board) but you should still be allowed to keep working. All of the discussions that would take place about getting to work and being rested for your assignment would not look good and ultimately there are mountains of precedence that say when you don't show up to work, it is permissible for the employer to fire you, and arbitrators hate to break precedence.
So, long story short, be smart and take whatever risks you are comfortable with, but y'all be careful out there.
06-28-2018, 01:29 PM
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Long call is not considered an “assignment”—there is no requirement to acknowledge you are on long call at the beginning of a block or after completion of an actual assignment that trigger 117 protections (these being short call, field standby, or a trip).
Therefore, there is no requirement to commute to long call (or being out of position for a long call), only the three categories of assignments above. Commuter protections should apply to all 3 just as a line holder is protected.
Therefore, there is no requirement to commute to long call (or being out of position for a long call), only the three categories of assignments above. Commuter protections should apply to all 3 just as a line holder is protected.
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