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TCASTESTOK 07-06-2018 05:12 PM

Dont land like its the sim
 
Hard landing in IAD causes ceiling panel to fall off, hit a passenger, no injuries.
United Airlines ceiling panel falls after landing at Dulles International Airport (VIDEO) - Story | WNYW

MasterOfPuppets 07-06-2018 05:18 PM

Yeah the 767 will get ya sometimes. Hardest landing Iv ever been apart of (CA was flying:D) was HNL in a 767-400.

Alphafloor 07-06-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2629224)
Hard landing in IAD causes ceiling panel to fall off, hit a passenger, no injuries.
United Airlines ceiling panel falls after landing at Dulles International Airport (VIDEO) - Story | WNYW

As long as the mains hit in the touchdown zone on centerline who cares? My reply to a hard landing comment from a passenger is “sorry I’m not a very good pilot,... have a nice day” 😊

Kalamazoo 07-06-2018 06:31 PM

Wasn't my fault. Wasn't the plane's fault. It was the asphalt.

Airhoss 07-06-2018 07:09 PM

767 landing tip.. power on until after touch down.

Yak02 07-06-2018 08:03 PM

11 years EWR-HNL on B764. Yes, I have felt some really hard ground contacts. This works every time.

50
Flare
30
Flare somemore
Close Throttles
20
10
Nice landing!

Brakes 3, Idle Reverse, Autobrakes off at 40knots, taxi to gate on time. Repeat

Fly Safe Fly Often

awax 07-06-2018 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Yak02 (Post 2629326)
11 years EWR-HNL on B764. Yes, I have felt some really hard ground contacts. This works every time.

50
Flare
30
Flare somemore
Close Throttles
20
10
Nice landing!

Brakes 3, Idle Reverse, Autobrakes off at 40knots, taxi to gate on time. Repeat

Fly Safe Fly Often


That's the same for every Boeing (worth flying). :D

ShyGuy 07-06-2018 10:45 PM

As a passenger the hardest landings always seem to be on the 767. I don't know why, but that forward-tilting bogey is what I blame :D The 757 (like most airplanes) has a slightly backward tilted wheel bogey so the rear sets touch first followed by the front set. The A330 is awesome in this regard. I don't know why the 767 is different like that.

JamesNoBrakes 07-06-2018 10:53 PM

I've been in a lot of sims, from big monster airbusses to tiny single engines (with a lot in between). I've seen them landed poorly, and I've seen them landed well. The ones that were landed well were using visual cues at the end and feeling it through. The ones that were poor were trying to land "automatically" and usually didn't really understand the aerodynamics associated with landing, disregarding the visual and other cues. This usually transitioned over to the airplane, except that in some initial training, I saw that people were generally "afraid" to do what they did in the sim. Possibly too much sensory overload at that point and mental-blocks that prevented using the same cues due to real consequences.

In general, I've noticed that there are pilots that "understand" landing and can land nearly anything, regardless of size and weight, and there are those that never really "get it". I was definitely that pilot at one point, and I worked hard to overcome it.

Frip 07-06-2018 11:19 PM

Don't know nothin' about the 400, except that in general the more they stretch them the worse they fky and harder they get to land, so there is that.

The 757 and 767-200/300, in that order, are the sweetest landing airplanes out there, in my experience.

Especially with a good stiff crosswind.


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