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Snapshot is out.
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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop
(Post 2649746)
You'll have to fly the 767-400 and one other variant during OE. You'll also need a NAT trip, doesn't have to be on the 767-400.
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Cheese and rice EWR 756 Capt went SENIOR!!
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2650254)
Cheese and rice EWR 756 Capt went SENIOR!!
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Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2650400)
I’m waiting with popcorn in hand to see what chaos the EWR 787 opening will yield. Happy to see the growth regardless.
The 787-10 does have less range, but could still be used on EWR-NRT or EWR-TLV prob even EWR-PEK. Not to mention they could even do some 787-9 routes out of EWR and have the 787-10 take over some of the SFO routes. So, does it just do the shorter range Europe stuff or does it also poach some of the more popular 777 routes?? And what new routes do we see? Thus far IAD-TLV, but with 9 787-10s, 1 777-300, and 3 767-300s coming before next summer, we are going to need several more new routes, increased frequencies on existing routes, or parking of airplanes. I know we have the first heavy maintenance cycle coming up on the original 787-8s, but that doesn't account for 13 new airplanes worth of lift. Even with additional guidance the EWR 787 bidding and associated backfills should be good for us all. (Maybe even some movement for us lowly ORD folks- you know that city where we are headquartered!) Hopefully more good news coming, but we are certainly blessed as these are definitely "interesting times"! |
I’m not sure I’d count the 767-300s as growth AC. I heard they were retiring some older non Polaris 300s with these. But who knows.
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
(Post 2650520)
It will be interesting to see if they actually discuss what routes they plan on using them on. Thus far just the vague Europe discussion.
The 787-10 does have less range, but could still be used on EWR-NRT or EWR-TLV prob even EWR-PEK. Not to mention they could even do some 787-9 routes out of EWR and have the 787-10 take over some of the SFO routes. So, does it just do the shorter range Europe stuff or does it also poach some of the more popular 777 routes?? And what new routes do we see? Thus far IAD-TLV, but with 9 787-10s, 1 777-300, and 3 767-300s coming before next summer, we are going to need several more new routes, increased frequencies on existing routes, or parking of airplanes. I know we have the first heavy maintenance cycle coming up on the original 787-8s, but that doesn't account for 13 new airplanes worth of lift. Even with additional guidance the EWR 787 bidding and associated backfills should be good for us all. (Maybe even some movement for us lowly ORD folks- you know that city where we are headquartered!) Hopefully more good news coming, but we are certainly blessed as these are definitely "interesting times"! The -10 is going to be significantly larger then any 777 (except for the 777-300 or HNL birds) or any 767’s at 318 seats. So think of routes that can sell those extra seats. Everything I’ve read is the sweet spot for the -10 is realistically in the 8-10 hour range. Which means Europe or South America. Can it do east coast to Asia? Yes but probably with some payload penalties. The 3 Hawaiian 767’s are rumored to be the first ones in the High J configuration. Doesn’t make sense to just have 3 planes in that configuration so I think a few more will be converted and they will fly whatever route they think they can sell all those premium seats. Isolate them to a certain market. LHR anyone? Combined with the flight attendants in October, let the great airplane shuffle begin. Again. |
Originally Posted by GoCats67
(Post 2650520)
The 787-10 does have less range, but could still be used on EWR-NRT or EWR-TLV prob even EWR-PEK. Not to mention they could even do some 787-9 routes out of EWR and have the 787-10 take over some of the SFO routes. So, does it just do the shorter range Europe stuff or does it also poach some of the more popular 777 routes?? The most interesting thing to watch is where the 764 will go. With the FAs merged in OCT and the 787-10 going to EWR i predict the 764 will slide into ORD and possibly back into IAH. If you look at 764 flying and high density 777 flying you will see where the 787-10 is going to fly from EWR. |
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This is a 5000nm range from EWR. A realistic MTOW distance for the 787-10. Attachment 3833
From an Air New Zealand investor update: "So the -10 is just a stretched version. And by maintaining that parts commonality, they've created a very efficient, extremely efficient, aircraft. The trade-off though, because there's always a trade-off, is that the range of that aircraft is less than you get with a 787-9 and less than you get with any of the other options. However, in the context of our network the range it offers would work well to Asia. So to put it in context, to give you - to bring it to life a little bit, the 767s we used to fly to Asia. So we used to fly them to Tokyo, to Shanghai, Hong Kong. The 787- 10 has got about the same range as that, so it suits that part of the network. It has obviously got dramatically better, like two generations between, cost economics than a 787 - sorry - than a 767". |
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
(Post 2650644)
This is a 5000nm range from EWR. A realistic MTOW distance for the 787-10. Attachment 3833
From an Air New Zealand investor update: 5000nm at SFO gets you to LHR/CDG (FRA right at the edge) going to Europe or NRT and very NE part of China. Attachment 3834 |
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