737 MAX 10 gear
 

Will this also allow for larger engines under the wings?

Link works now and yes; added clearance for rotation and motors. However the current max 9 has the same motors (LEAP 1B) with the standard landing gear

The next gen Boing737-11Max2 is going to put your average hooptie to shame. They're going to hang the 777 engines on it. The good news is that will eliminate the need for the tail stand.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/46/a2...0dd1f368a7.jpg

Lmao!!:d....

I love how in the video he says “our customers wanted”

No.... your customers want a 757 replacement and this Rube Goldberg POS is all you have to offer to compete with the 321NEO.

Thanks. Now I wonder when the 737 MAX 10 will get larger engines.

I think it is in respect to Boeing’s customers, which are airlines

So how many 10’s do the largest 737 operators in the world(SWA and Ryan) have on order? Oh right, none. DAL? AA?

Exactly. Boeing created this abomination just for us...because unlike AA & DAL, we hadn't yet pulled the trigger on the 321NEO. So, to keep from losing out, they invest all this time and money to further stretch an already "maxed" stretch of the 37. I'm convinced Boeing management will sell their kids if it means they bag some more orders than Airbus.

Seemes like a more reasonable gear solution than I feared. Wondering how it works on touchdown - guessing limited compression until deck angle decreases? Just wondering what sort of new approach speeds this will need over the MAX9 w/ same wing. Probably no brake temp indication added only because we’d freak out if we saw the numbers ;)

Very few ordered, I think UAL is half of the order book. I wouldn't be surprised to see in CNXed.

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t UAL convert 100 of the 161 MAX orders to 737 MAX 10s?

I think the company is targeting this specific airframe for transcons.

That's better than the 737-600. I think WestJet has half or more of the airframes built and they have something like 6 of them.

I think there might be 200 total orders for the POS airframe. How much money will Boeing spend to sell 200 more 737's?

I foresee zero future maintenance delays having to do with that over-engineered contraption of a gear.

WTF did I just watch.

Let’s hope Airbus is able to sell UA 321s for the same price or less. The crew costs for UA are identical.

F4 landing gear
 

This nothing new. The MD F4 had such an arrangement. Upon retraction, the main gear strut would be sucked up (shorter) as it retracted into the well.

It usually worked okay, but I did watch an F4-C land gear up at Keflavik because one of the gear extend in the well and got hung up.

Spectacular show from my perspective next to the runway.

Major Charlie M. held it off too long and plopped in on so hard, the radome flew off, the radar package extended on the rail, and the drop tanks curled back over the wing.

He jumped out and left his WSO, Lt. Andy A. Stunned and sitting in his seat, canopy closed.

Of course Charlie got the quarterly AF safety award.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MuFie_YOdE

It’s not extra clearance for the engines as compared to the other Max variants. The -10 will have the same engines.

It’s soley to help with rotation and tail strikes and runway performance.

It won’t. They have spent billions developing the Leap, they aren’t going the spend billions more for a larger one just for one airframe.

No, but just about always, a new engine will be sized and even flight tested for higher growth thrust ratings. It's like the GW issue. You want more, all you have to do is pay for it.

That’s a good point.

Higher thrust perhaps. But done in the existing package. Every engine gets PIP’s during its production run.

A larger engine, meaning fan size, means redesigning the architecture of the engine and the airframe structure to support it. And then getting that certified. A long multi year process.

But again this new gear does NOT change the ground clearance, so a bigger fan isn’t going to happen.

Fixed it for you.

I hope no pilots on here bid 737 Capt in IAH.

Plane absolutely sucks. MAX9 flies horribly.......not.

And I remember when the Bus went really junior at UAL because it sucked too. Now it’s all the rage 20 years later.

Then we can talk about the guys who wouldn’t bid up from the 727 because they were afraid of glass cockpits.

Or legacy U where the use of VNAV was prohibited.

Or.......

I like the MAX9. And I’ll wait to see how the 10 is the day I push back from the gate......

I don’t buy them, just fly them.

Lee

Lol. Filler

Amazing how few grasp that simple concept and simultaneously take on the roles of airline CEO and manufacturer chief engineer.

Looks like it might be easy to get a greaser

Yet, the UAL MEC just put out a cartoon about scope that states:


That's a direct quote, the MEC appears to be taking on the role of airline exec and using "we" and "our" with respect to RJ flying and 50 seat aircraft replacement. While I agree RJ flying IS "our" flying, we have scope provisions that can and will force the company's hand if we're patient enough to let it work. The company will absolutely let ALPA pay to solve their problem and with the latest cartoons, I'm concerned the MEC might be taking the bait. Line pilots need to watch how this this aspect of negotiations proceed VERY carefully.

Back on topic......it's still just a Guppy.

Or it will be like falling down 3 stairs. Mains hit, new gear does its collapse thing, then the spoilers smack you solidly into the pavement.:D

Amazing the apathy some have as well.

This sounds right lol!

When management calls me and asks my opinion about the fleet plan, I'll GAS. Until then, I'll remember the serenity prayer.

Recommend you stay away from the 737 then.

I remember a time when MX used to refer to the Bus as the 180.....left the gate and turned around with a fault that MX had to fix.

The NG has many not desirable characteristics. Again, I fly it per SOP. To ***** constantly about it serves no purpose.

Tilt away. I’ll fly my trips in the 737 and not worry too much about why the company should have gotten a different aircraft. All these years and they’ve never called to ask my option on aircraft orders.

Lee

Oh you mean like the 787 that had a 60% dispatch as they learned the airplane?

Flown it, terrible. I’ll continue to care as more profitable operations like DAL load up on 321neos and A220’s. Some of us don’t want to just languish at less than the best.

And some of us realize we have no say in aircraft orders and or access to the deals and cost-benefit analysis that drive our aircraft purchases. If you honestly think our management is stupid enough to randomly purchase aircraft without significant analysis, you probably ought to go to Delta, because United won't last until your retirement. When it comes to operational issues, pilots have a lot of expertise. When it comes to the business side of running an airline... not so much. Yes, from a pilot's perspective the 737-900 ER sucks (haven't flown the Max, but I expect more of the same). Our management obviously thinks it makes sense from a business perspective.

I agree. The Max is just a very efficient 900ER with bigger screens. I’ve only flown 2 legs in it, but that was my take. It’s still not a bad place to sit. Yes it isn’t the quietest cockpit, and yes, God forbid, you have to actually flip a switch to bring a generator online, but how difficult is that? The bean counters decided that the max would maximize our profits when considering our operation and the available options at whatever prices that they were able to negotiate. Delta and American each have different bases and cost structures. What works for them doesn’t necessarily mean that it is the best fit for us. If sitting in a 737 is that unbearable or demeaning the guppy haters can just bid around the thing. We have options.

Anyone who bashes the Max needs to get a clue. That thing is hands down better than any of the previous guppy models. It has 2 cup holders, what more could you ask for!:D

From what I hear, the 73 is a love hate relationship. Hate the plane but love the schedules and layovers. Complaining about the plane is a rite of passage and borderline endearment. If you can smoothly fly and land the thing though, you can fly anything.

You've summed it up quite well.