It isn’t a sim instructor job because all of ours are seniority list pilots making over two times what you stated above at a minimum as FO pilot instructors (evaluators make a lot more as they are on a “best held” captain scale . Fleet technical instructors use the FTD devices to teach basic flows but are really ground school instructors focusing on systems. Important job that probably deserves more than what they are currently being paid but If you were thinking that the pay is low because you see the job as “simulator instructor”, then you are mistaken. Different job.

Then it's not something I'm interested in. And the job description is deceptive because it most assuredly says "aircraft simulators".

American, Delta, Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue all use non-seniority list sim instructors. I assumed United did the same.

They do not and hopefully never will. Sim instructors are on the list and fly the line.

Thanks. Again, in that case, I'm not interested. I'll cancel the interview and keep my class date at SWA.

So, does United just dump the guys that lose their medicals, since they can't fly the line and therefore aren't, apparently, good enough to be sim instructors?

No. They go on LTD (which hopefully will be raised on the upcoming contract but currently pays out around 8K a month tax free until retirement age) and can also work outside the company in a position not requiring a medical. Not sure if working in a non flying position at UAL is allowed while collecting LTD. Someone more familiar will probably chime in. Good luck with the search.

You're going to cancel your interview based on an internet forum? Ok... Why not ask these questions once offered the job?

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If United pilots are saying that only UAL seniority list pilots can act as sim instructors and these FTI positions are not sim instructor positions but ground instructors, well, I would think they should know.

And I am not interested in a $60k ground instructor job. So why waste everyone's time?

Because he's full of ****, and has now created a two page troll thread and sitting in Mom's basement sipping on strawberry hill, laughing at how fuking stupid and gullible we are. Class date with SWA, and entertaining an FTI job with UAL?? Really? :rolleyes:

Really. The position with SWA is for a "Flt Crew Training Instructor" -- a sim instructor. And, like every other airline sim instructor position, you go through initial pilot training, whether rated or not, do the initial LOE, and then go back through instructor training.

It's apparent you don't understand how this works and I get it since UAL doesn't hire non line sim instructors.

I have already admitted that I didn't know that and believed the FTI job at United was a sim instructor job.

They called and offered an interview, I'm not in class yet, so I accepted, like plenty of others here have done and would do. You never know.

I came here for information, which I received. I also know these forums come loaded with the kind of BS you provided. Thanks to those who gave legitimate info. It was very helpful and appreciated.

As far as your contribution,

Meh.

If you want to post the job announcement you'd get conformation on the actual duties, but based on what you posed I'm certain that the job is for an "academic instructor" position. Unless you're already a United Pilot, on the United Pilot seniority list, it's not for a "simulator instructor" position.

From the united pilot contract:

"I/E" (Instructor/Evaluators) are required to be rated and current line pilots in the equipment that they teach. Academic instructors (ground school instructors) don't have that requirement, but they also won't teach flight procedures. However they occasionally will take students to the sim to demonstrate aircraft systems in preparation for the flight training portion of a particular course.