Vacancy 19-04
Looks like they’re going waive freezes for pilots to go to GUM. Must be hard up for pilots to go to GUM. I just read the new Crew Resources Update.
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VACANCY
Captain First Officer EWR 787 CA 10 EWR 787 FO 20 EWR 777 CA 4 SFO 756 FO 3 ORD 777 CA 4 SFO 320 FO 10 SFO 777 CA 4 DCA 737 FO 7 DEN 756 CA 4 GUM 737 FO 8 EWR 756 CA 2 ORD 737 FO 3 LAX 756 CA 6 SFO 737 FO 10 DCA 737 CA 6 DEN 737 CA 6 EWR 737 CA 6 IAH 737 CA 6 LAX 737 CA 6 Sixty plus slots in each seat, and slots in every domicile. (Except CLE, sorry. And a larger vacancy promised for next month. Beats a sharp stick in the eye. |
Originally Posted by robthree
(Post 2701615)
...and a larger vacancy promised for next month...
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If I remember right, they wanted/needed 50 Captains and 105 FO's on the 787 out of EWR.
Seems like there are still a few more VB's in the future to staff this new BES. Motch |
Heard this morning the company want's 12-13 more classes before the end of April to meet the summer demand. Not counting the two already on the books for December. I see many bids coming :D
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They said the next bid will be bigger also.
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Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2701664)
If I remember right, they wanted/needed 50 Captains and 105 FO's on the 787 out of EWR.
Seems like there are still a few more VB's in the future to staff this new BES. Motch |
Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2701664)
If I remember right, they wanted/needed 50 Captains and 105 FO's on the 787 out of EWR.
Seems like there are still a few more VB's in the future to staff this new BES. Motch “We will begin staffing EWR B787 with 15 captain and 20 first officer vacancies. Our current staffing target for summer 2019 is 55 captains and 105 first officers. Network Planning is working on regulatory approvals to fly six international Atlantic routes out of EWR which, added to some domestic flying, will be the mission of the EWR B787.” |
Originally Posted by Nuke
(Post 2701691)
They said the next bid will be bigger also.
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
(Post 2702036)
Where did they say that? Not doubting, just curious where.
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
(Post 2702036)
Where did they say that? Not doubting, just curious where.
The goal of this bid is to fill the remaining open training slots in January. Looking ahead, I expect the next vacancy to occur in December, and I expect it will be larger than the current vacancy. Also, the SSC update said we are limited by how much training capacity we have, so expect that these bids will keep coming for some time. |
Originally Posted by PA Slammer
(Post 2702036)
Where did they say that? Not doubting, just curious where.
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I guess what we are all trying to say is, crew resource update...:D
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No Houston WB
No Houston W/B ca. vacancies. Continued Houston shrinkage.
And they wonder why the Houston Fltops pulse numbers are so low. |
Originally Posted by BMEP100
(Post 2702145)
No Houston W/B ca. vacancies. Continued Houston shrinkage.
And they wonder why the Houston Fltops pulse numbers are so low. |
Originally Posted by Airway
(Post 2702204)
I think Houston is an important market, but I'm pretty sure the decisions are not personal to "screw" Houston crews.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots.
That’s insane And it’s stupid expensive to do that. Like your profit sharing?! Everybody has the opportunity to bid SFO or EWR. Everybody has the opportunity to move to those locations too. And we are all treated the same. |
Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 2702080)
I guess what we are all trying to say is, crew resource update...:D
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Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Dude pass the pipe! Gotta say, GUM has been getting screwed out of the widebody stuff in particular... I demand a 787 base there - union should treat us all the same and force some equitable staffing.
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Living in Houston is a choice....
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
(Post 2702219)
So... anybody have an answer to where it said large vacancy next month?
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Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots.[/QUOTE]
Okay, is anyone else embarrassed??? Please tell me you don’t actually work for United. |
Being in a union is not about being treated exactly the same but treated equitably and with due process. I have flown with jr and sr CAL and UAL guys and they pretty much all have had the same complaints meaning it seems pretty fair, with the exception of one very JR guy who said he was about 3-500 numbers higher than he thought he should be.
Everyone at UAL got screwed in the 2000s. Some just got screwed worse. Would you rather be in your position or be one of the guys who lost his pension 6 months before retiring? |
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. |
If this poster is ORD based and concerned with the slow pace there, don’t forget to point a finger at the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois. Financial and political instability has business consequences.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots.
Hopefully, you understand that ALPA doesn't control UAL marketing or the economic forces that drive marketing's decisions, right?. I heard a stat that if you drew a 10 mile circle around SFO, the revenue generation of companies inside that circle together would represent the world's 6th largest economy. I'm sure the operation out of EWR has similar metric. So if you're looking to make maximum profit, where do you put the assets? ORD has road salt, high crime, and high property taxes - it's not the city it was 30 years ago. The City of Chicago has dug it's own grave. So, troll on, or commute to either coast where the flying is. ;) In all fairness though, if you have data to support ORD getting more international flying, I'm sure your LEC SSC would enjoy your talents. |
Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 2702277)
You're joking...right?:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 2702400)
He must be joking.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeVFR
(Post 2702210)
I think most of us realize that. However, the difference between the have and have not groups is huge. Almost 19 years (LUA) doesn’t hold captain in ORD. Worse in DEN and IAH.
Being in a union is supposed to ensure all are treated the same. Maybe it is time to have a discussion on language to force staffing some of the costal growth with the flyover mid-continent pilots. I bid and moved to the coast to improve my post SLI bidding power. We all have choices to make. I would not support any initiative to artificially preference pilots based on their choice of living/flying(mid continent) arrangement and I doubt many would support such a program. Chasing the flying around is a recipe for continued heart ache. ALPA should not be tasked with choosing geographical winners and losers. |
Originally Posted by CousinEddie
(Post 2702312)
...don’t forget to point a finger at the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois. Financial and political instability has business consequences.
Originally Posted by awax
(Post 2702313)
So if you're looking to make maximum profit, where do you put the assets?
https://www.flychicago.com/sites/oha...ls/overall.jpg |
nvm Taxiway SS is gone
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With the amount of construction that will be happening I don’t foresee much growth in ORD until it is complete. Or at least close to it. I’d be happy to be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by grappler72
(Post 2702786)
With the amount of construction that will be happening I don’t foresee much growth in ORD until it is complete.
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Originally Posted by Levigarrett
(Post 2702423)
19 yrs on property or 19 yrs since hire? There is a big difference. I often here guys tell me how they've been at United for 17yrs and can't hold Captain. When you dig a bit you realize they were hired 17yrs ago but have only flown the line for 8yrs due to furlough. I've been furloughed myself so I understand the impulse to play cute with the numbers. A 2001 L-UA does not have 17yrs seniority any more than a late 2007 L-CAL hire has 11 yrs seniority.
I bid and moved to the coast to improve my post SLI bidding power. We all have choices to make. I would not support any initiative to artificially preference pilots based on their choice of living/flying(mid continent) arrangement and I doubt many would support such a program. Chasing the flying around is a recipe for continued heart ache. ALPA should not be tasked with choosing geographical winners and losers. ALPA forcing the company to put flying where it isn’t needed would be totally wrong. How bad do you want to fly Captain? The last bid went junior to everyone on the list prior to the merger. We just happen to be growing the East/west coast and Denver. IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again. |
Originally Posted by Learjet driver
(Post 2702857)
IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again.
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
(Post 2702857)
What..... if he/she was hired at UAL in 2000-2001 they have been with the company for 17-18 years. All of the longevity that was lost has been restored. What you ment to say was all of the 1999-2001 UAL pilots were screwed in the merger and got mixed in with 2007-2008 CAL hires. We don’t go around telling the 1978 hires they have only been here since 1985 because they spent 7 years furloughed.
ALPA forcing the company to put flying where it isn’t needed would be totally wrong. How bad do you want to fly Captain? The last bid went junior to everyone on the list prior to the merger. We just happen to be growing the East/west coast and Denver. IAH and ORD used to be junior as well. The pendulum will swing that way again. |
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