I agree that seniority isn't honored by allowing those with shotgun requests first rights to trips that appear in open time. All trips should hit the open time window first then during the next run of the trip trade window it be awarded.

Ridiculous that our system operates this way as it transparency cannot be verified.

I just flew with a pilot that complained about how a trip was awarded. He was not awarded the trip as the thought he should have. He filed a PDR. Eventually the union got him paid for the trip as if he had flown it.


The company is having to pay "ghost pilots" to fly virtual trips from home because there are some issues with this in the contract. Perhaps the contract is just as hard to understand for schedulers as it is for pilots.


Hearing the "read your contract" crap is getting old. I read it, and then I have to have a PHD level discussion with my union rep on what it means, I read a 20 page summary of what our pay means, color coded and all, and then I compare it to the actual contract language, and then I argue with a scheduler, a scheduler supervisor, a pay clerk, and an assistant chief pilot.

I am changing my tune on this. Anything that I don't understand, I PDR it. Anytime I think the cba is mis-understood, or mis-interprted by management or a scheduler I PDR it. Whatever the response is with the PDR I am fine with. Just takes a few minutes to do it, and is less of a drain on my sanity than arguing with 3 levels of company goofiness.

If this pilot’s initials are (*in the alphabet*) then boy can I tell you how much I loathe *him*? Round and round with reports to ALPA..screenshots of shenanigans with proof time and time again of his deceitful ways. In the end, nothing happened. I’m sure he’s still at it. I left the *old jet* for the *new jet* a year ago and haven’t had to think about that pole *cat* until I read this thread.


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100 percent alive and well , every airline has em . Including the guy I met who knocked out 265 credit in July .. did 410 last year and will do more this year he claimed ... Fo 756

I would think there is some electronic trail on all their individual trips, how they were picked up and by whom they were awarded, etc. “Should” not be that difficult to track down the inside guy...

The company cycles through 0% 50% 75% and 100% add pay because people have automated trip pick up requests and it is the simplest/most efficient way to assign flying. There is nothing in the contract that says "trips must be posted for a long enough period for some guy on the golf course to finish the hole and call the misses before trying to pick up a trip.

That would be him. Currently on his way back from a SFO-HKG-HNL trip as we speak. He brags to captains about his mafia status and how much he makes a year. Pathetic.

Well he’s a real piece of *work*. He’s been screwing his buddies for 6+ years now. I hope karma catches up with the *upright citzen*.


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You would need supervisor log in credentials.

With the old CMS system, open trips used to be posted a few minutes before migrating over to CCS. Up till recently, anyone could access open time in CMS with the command /for cmptoc (as I recall). Now you need a higher level of login credentials than us line pukes have.

Picking up open trips could be done also on CMS.

What is really perplexing about HGK ferry flying is that is just shows up at the last minute, as if no one knew if that airframe was scheduled for heavy maintenance a day or two before.

** Thats the only partial match I could find on * He is not even that senior.