Read your own sentence. How does buying an Airbus break up the “Boeing/Airbus Duopoly”?

Because up until last summer, the A-220 was the Bombardier C-Series. That’s why I’d been cheering for it. I thought people would’ve gathered that.


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With the E175, you’d have a fleet that’s literally hundreds of frames larger than a fleet with only 100 seaters.

That’s economy of scale right there.

That would be nice and going with Embraer would allow that if they ever wanted to go that way, but based on what the company has said, I don’t see 76 jets at mainline as a remote possibility. The company has remained somewhat open to 100+ seat jets though. Now that they know that scope isn’t for sale, they may warm to the idea of the 195e2/220 size jet so that they can get the additional 76 seaters at the regionals that they want since they are stuck with our current scope language. There is a bunch going on right now. This big campaign to rebrand the airline again has the employees stirred up. My guess is that we will have a new contract before they seriously consider adding another fleet type, and I really don’t expect that for a couple of years.

So, if in the new contract, all pilots flying for United and for Mana Air were covered, and a pilot hired at Mana Air was given a seniority number on the same list as pilots at United Airlines, would that count as "insourcing" the flying? Would the 70 seaters being flown by Mana air count against the 70/76 seat limit? Would flying an E-195 at Mana Air be allowed, since they would be flown by pilots on our seniority list?

I am sure that there are some creative solutions being looked at!!

My money is on 76 seat jets at mainline before any regional has any consideration under our contract or any type of actual flow agreement. UAL doesn’t want either and probably not even entertaining creative solutions.

So? On a 2.5 hour block/1000 mile leg the difference between .74 and .78 is 5 minutes flight time. Who cares?

ExpressJet/ManaAir has recently registered 60 tail numbers NxxxUX.
https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=EXPRESSJET&sort_option=1 &PageNo=1
We’ve only been awarded 25 E175SCs, perhaps they are thinking we’ll be awarded more? But the 70 seaters are scoped out. Only way to get more is to park the 50 seaters which goes against Kirby’s strategy, replace more CR7s with 175SCs or perhaps “insourcing” is a possibility.

The only way for xjt to get more 70 seat jets is to either take them away from another regional and shuffle assets, or for UAL to add another fleet type to mainline which would allow more rj’s at the regional of their choice. UAL isn’t going to go beyond the CPP. If we were to add 76 seat jets to mainline the company would simply hire off the street and through the various CPP programs like they do now.

I agree. The 25 175SCs are coming at the expense of 25 planes from another regional. Many here are guessing UAL will ax GoJet’s flying as the contract expires this year for their 25 CR7s. A staple to UAL is a pipe dream for us. But the union passed along a survey that came from the UAL MEC regarding the CPP. It asked questions like “How much does the CPP make you want to stay at your UAX carrier” “if you were offered a job at legacy/LCC/regional with a flow while in the CPP pool would you leave?” This, along with the second round Hogan’s not coming out yet make you wonder if something is up.