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Fresh 12-12-2018 08:36 AM

New Routes Announced
 
More SFO growth...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1OB2BB

Nucflash 12-12-2018 08:40 AM

https://hub.united.com/2018-12-12-un...623210816.html

Itsajob 12-12-2018 09:07 AM

What??? No international widebody growth in ORD or IAH? I’m shocked.

Ni hao 12-12-2018 09:40 AM

So how many bodies does this equate to for SFO?

awax 12-12-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2723847)
So how many bodies does this equate to for SFO?

Current Staffing plus bid 19-05, I presume.

intrepidcv11 12-12-2018 10:19 AM

Take a look at the dates of the new stuff (not AKL or AMS). It doesn’t start till December 2019. Not gonna see that in bid for a while.

GoCats67 12-12-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2723856)
Current Staffing plus bid 19-05, I presume.

The DEL and MEL flights don't start until next Fall, so 19-05 wouldn't cover those.

Since MEL is only 3 days a week, I figure together these must be 12-15 Captains and 35-45 FOs. SFO-DEL is longer than EWR-DEL, which means there is a very good chance that it will need 2 CA and 2 FO. If that is the way it is staffed it would mean more Capts and less FOs than that guess.

I am curious to see if we are getting some 787-9s in the Fall of 19 to cover these flights. The orders recently said 2020, but maybe we are accelerating some deliveries.

Dave Fitzgerald 12-12-2018 10:43 AM

By then the new SouthWest terminal should be done, and we will take a few more gates. But the front 70's gates will close for renovation about the same time. So, no new space.

What gates will we operate this stuff from? We are out of gates now....long range planning, a joke. Nice to see the expansion, but as usual, the devil is in the details.

MasterOfPuppets 12-12-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 2723886)
By then the new SouthWest terminal should be done, and we will take a few more gates. But the front 70's gates will close for renovation about the same time. So, no new space.

What gates will we operate this stuff from? We are out of gates now....long range planning, a joke. Nice to see the expansion, but as usual, the devil is in the details.

Most of these flights are evening there is space then. AMS is going to be hard to squeeze in though

Dave Fitzgerald 12-12-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2723895)
Most of these flights are evening there is space then. AMS is going to be hard to squeeze in though

Evening is actually worse when talking about gates. Have you seen ground control after 8 pm? Not unusual to have grid lock. Planes can't get to gates because the planes at the gates can't push because of all the planes waiting for gates.

10 pm is one of the busiest times of the day for the airport.


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