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Old 12-12-2018 | 08:36 AM
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More SFO growth...

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Old 12-12-2018 | 08:40 AM
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Old 12-12-2018 | 09:07 AM
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What??? No international widebody growth in ORD or IAH? I’m shocked.
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Old 12-12-2018 | 09:40 AM
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So how many bodies does this equate to for SFO?
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Old 12-12-2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
So how many bodies does this equate to for SFO?
Current Staffing plus bid 19-05, I presume.
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Old 12-12-2018 | 10:19 AM
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Take a look at the dates of the new stuff (not AKL or AMS). It doesn’t start till December 2019. Not gonna see that in bid for a while.
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Old 12-12-2018 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by awax
Current Staffing plus bid 19-05, I presume.
The DEL and MEL flights don't start until next Fall, so 19-05 wouldn't cover those.

Since MEL is only 3 days a week, I figure together these must be 12-15 Captains and 35-45 FOs. SFO-DEL is longer than EWR-DEL, which means there is a very good chance that it will need 2 CA and 2 FO. If that is the way it is staffed it would mean more Capts and less FOs than that guess.

I am curious to see if we are getting some 787-9s in the Fall of 19 to cover these flights. The orders recently said 2020, but maybe we are accelerating some deliveries.
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Old 12-12-2018 | 10:43 AM
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By then the new SouthWest terminal should be done, and we will take a few more gates. But the front 70's gates will close for renovation about the same time. So, no new space.

What gates will we operate this stuff from? We are out of gates now....long range planning, a joke. Nice to see the expansion, but as usual, the devil is in the details.
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Old 12-12-2018 | 10:58 AM
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By then the new SouthWest terminal should be done, and we will take a few more gates. But the front 70's gates will close for renovation about the same time. So, no new space.

What gates will we operate this stuff from? We are out of gates now....long range planning, a joke. Nice to see the expansion, but as usual, the devil is in the details.
Most of these flights are evening there is space then. AMS is going to be hard to squeeze in though
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Old 12-12-2018 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Most of these flights are evening there is space then. AMS is going to be hard to squeeze in though
Evening is actually worse when talking about gates. Have you seen ground control after 8 pm? Not unusual to have grid lock. Planes can't get to gates because the planes at the gates can't push because of all the planes waiting for gates.

10 pm is one of the busiest times of the day for the airport.
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