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Far999 02-01-2019 01:35 AM
Anyone remember the summer of 2000 ?

sailingfun 02-01-2019 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Slop (Post 2754077)
Forgive my ignorance, as this is the first contract negotiations I’ve been through at an airline, but.....now what?
Years of waiting!

Dragon7 02-01-2019 04:20 AM
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2753714)
Weird that the stumbling block is scope. Who could have ever saw that coming?

As always, there will be a new contract when management wants a new contract. I guess they don't think they need one yet?

IMHO scope is not the issue. Management knows it is a nonstarter. But it is the distraction that will give them the edge that we might take a little bit of JV, non union pilots teaching at TK, insufficient improvement to LTD, sick time, reserve, etc., and even pay rates, but think “yeah we beat them on scope”.

We beat them on scope. We need to keep our eyes on the other shiny objects.

And I can wait as long as it takes to get it right.

Brisket ready to cook Sunday for Super Bowl.

All good.

jdt30 02-01-2019 04:50 AM
Originally Posted by Slop (Post 2754077)
Forgive my ignorance, as this is the first contract negotiations I’ve been through at an airline, but.....now what?
We’re on strike.

No, just sit back and relax. We let Insler, and the negotiation committee take care of everything. They’ll let us know when we need to do something.

757Driver 02-01-2019 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2753702)
We will not be rushed into an agreement that does not meet the needs of the membership simply for the sake of expediency.
Originally Posted by Ni hao (Post 2753702)
We are willing to continue on this path because securing career protections and contract improvements is more important than a rushed agreement.
Wonder how different things would be if we'd followed that path with our first CBA during the merger?

cadetdrivr 02-01-2019 05:54 AM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 2754164)
Wonder how different things would be if we'd followed that path with our first CBA during the merger?
Would have been nice.

But that rope was being pulled in more than two directions.

757Driver 02-01-2019 05:57 AM
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2754167)
Would have been nice.

But that rope was being pulled in more than two directions.
I do see both sides of that coin Cadet but most of that pulling was due to perceived threats and not actual ones, IMHO.

All In 02-01-2019 06:07 AM
Originally Posted by Slop (Post 2754077)
Forgive my ignorance, as this is the first contract negotiations I’ve been through at an airline, but.....now what?

Start calculating your retro pay.

DashTrash 02-01-2019 06:18 AM
Originally Posted by Slop (Post 2754077)
Forgive my ignorance, as this is the first contract negotiations I’ve been through at an airline, but.....now what?
Now we must be patient and fly our Contract! Be careful not to do anything that we haven’t been doing. Our contract will get done, when it gets done. My Union, MEC, and NC speak for me!!!

Airhoss 02-01-2019 06:59 AM
Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2753815)
If Kirby unilaterally voided our contract -- the pilots would collectively display their disapproval.
Hat switch?


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