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massgflight 02-19-2019 12:40 PM

Upgrade time average
 
New hire. Know things could dump/change/viral outbreak/terrorist/Murphy At any moment but assuming we maintain a solid hiring and retirement trajectory can anyone comment a wag estimate on time (with company) to get a seat WB FO at SFO or EWR? Thanks!

GoCats67 02-19-2019 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by massgflight (Post 2766972)
New hire. Know things could dump/change/viral outbreak/terrorist/Murphy At any moment but assuming we maintain a solid hiring and retirement trajectory can anyone comment a wag estimate on time (with company) to get a seat WB FO at SFO or EWR? Thanks!

The future is unknown!!! However, the current can be reported

After the last vacancy bid that closed in December (a new one closes in a week) we had the following:

Junior pilot on the property = approx 12700

Junior CAP in EWR 10568
Junior 777 FO in EWR 10822

Junior CAP in SFO 10831
Junior 777 FO in SFO 11317

So, you would need to move up about 1400 numbers from the bottom to be the most junior 777 FO and about 1900 numbers to be the most junior Captain. How long it would take to hire those numbers is the great unknown. Based on current hiring it would be very fast, but hiring can change in the blink of an eye.

With no growth and no shrinkage, it would take just over 3 years worth of retirements to get to 1400 and just over 4 years to get to 1900.

massgflight 02-19-2019 01:09 PM

Great info. Thanks for quick post. Happy to be here. Gonna be a great ride no matter what.

Setopbug 02-19-2019 01:33 PM

Don't sweat it. When I was hired, we were running just under two years for EWR 737CA. I upgraded as soon as I could, nine years after my FO IOE was complete.

I enjoyed every single minute.

mrmak2 02-20-2019 05:07 AM

Senior flt ops and FTC are making plans for 3 year upgrades FWIW

webecheck 02-20-2019 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 2767316)
Senior flt ops and FTC are making plans for 3 year upgrades FWIW

We basically already have that. About 3.5 yrs last bid. This bid will probably see the junior CA at 4 yrs from indoc, but WB FO is holding steady right at around 3 yrs.

massgflight 02-20-2019 01:48 PM

Thanks all!

JetPilotMike 02-22-2019 05:05 PM

What's crazy is WB FO is about the same seniority as NB CA!

GPullR 02-22-2019 06:01 PM

To hold a line is a completely different story.

ThePenguin328 02-22-2019 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by JetPilotMike (Post 2768822)
What's crazy is WB FO is about the same seniority as NB CA!

That’s what great about United and Airlines in general.....you can bid for whatever you want....and if you don’t like what you are doing just change your bid! Lots of people don’t want to fly to China or WB long haul. Some people hate domestic flying because they already did that on an RJ. Choice is great, but choose wisely ��


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