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ShyGuy 04-13-2019 01:09 PM

That's a fair point. On the other hand, history is full of examples of people standing up for what they perceived to be an injustice to themselves. Even when that means standing up right in the heat of the moment and facing arrest.

Airway 04-13-2019 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2802392)
That's a fair point. On the other hand, history is full of examples of people standing up for what they perceived to be an injustice to themselves. Even when that means standing up right in the heat of the moment and facing arrest.

I really hope you're not implying the Civil Rights movement.

ShyGuy 04-13-2019 02:48 PM

I mean in general. Anytime someone feels like what’s happening to them isn’t fair or unjust.

Remember, we have pax bill of rights and the 3 hr rule came out when far too many airlines (and in cases, the CA) thought it was better to keep people locked on a plane for endless hours and sometimes overnight.

UAL97 04-13-2019 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2802302)
Get some new material. That's one of the oldest insults on here. If you don't think the general public thinks pilots are a bunch of lazy whiny overpaid prima donnas try reading some passenger message boards. If you don't like my posts, feel free to gfy.

You've got some anger issues man. Relax.

aviatormjc 04-13-2019 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 2802130)
Does anyone know if there was truth to the rumor that the express pilots that were put on that flight last minute (causing the bumps) were actually being sent by Republic to cover a flight on the Delta side of their operation?



No. They were working another flight that got in late and scheduled to deadhead on that flight. They ran over to the new gate but because they were late their seats were given away. They were scheduled to work the first flight the next day from SDF-ORD. If they missed the deadhead the flight in the morning would have cancelled due to not having enough rest.

Republic will not reposition crews on one codeshare to work another.


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LNL76 04-13-2019 05:05 PM

I think I remember reading he took the offer and deplaned..only to change his mind and bolt back down to the plane, assaulting a gate agent. Is that how a rational adult, a doctor no less, behaves?

JoePatroni 04-13-2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2802485)
I think I remember reading he took the offer and deplaned..only to change his mind and bolt back down to the plane, assaulting a gate agent. Is that how a rational adult, a doctor no less, behaves?


No. It's how a convicted felon looking for a payday acts.

hummingbear 04-13-2019 10:24 PM

United Airlines didn’t beat this guy up, although they can fairly be accused of contracting out their work without providing adequate guidance on how to address a situation like this.

The contract airline didn’t beat this guy up, although they can fairly be criticized for requesting law enforcement intervention when a more generous compensatory offer would likely have found another willing volunteer.

The cops didn’t beat this guy up although questions should be asked about whether the use of contract security in place of law enforcement followed established guidelines and whether those guidelines were or are appropriate.

Airport security didn’t beat this guy up. (Watch the video.) They explained to him that they were there to remove him from the flight and recommended it would be best for him to come peaceably. He clung onto the seat and screamed and when they pried him loose, he flew across the aisle and hit his face on an armrest.

This guy didn’t deserve to get hurt. But he is a shady dude with a troubled background who acted like a jack@ss. Yes, his ticket entitled him to get to his destination but so did everyone else’s and I can all but guarantee you had it been anyone else on that plane that had been selected for removal that day it never would have developed into a news story.

This was a perfect storm of events. There were as many chances on the part of airport and airline personnel to avoid this as there were for Dao himself to behave like an adult. He got his money. Let him go off and dump it into whatever shady enterprise he wants to blow it on. He can go ahead and try to drum up some fresh sympathy from the uninformed masses, but they never really cared about him to begin with and are now too fully engaged in today’s exciting new cause celebre to care about a drug dealing sexual harasser who’s sitting on a few million from a major airline lawsuit. We learned some lessons. Hopefully we’re better off for it. His 15 minutes are over. Move on.

ShyGuy 04-13-2019 10:36 PM

His background and what he was or wasn't guilty of doesn't have anything to do with the events that transpired that day. What happened to him was wrong and people lost jobs over it.

APC225 04-14-2019 04:27 AM

The takeaway now seems to be, if someone refuses to get off for whatever reason, deplane the entire aircraft. That person will likely deplane with everyone else and then the issue can be resolved in the gate area.


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