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Old 04-21-2019, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PDRit View Post
It was the member exposing his member that got all of this started. Keep your pantaloons on and you are okay. Not sure ALPA can help you if you are too dense to know standing naked in window is a bad idea. And if you need ALPA to protect you from such bad decisions in any hotel you probably shouldn’t be a UAL pilot.
Don't worry, not a UAL pilot, but at the last count, I have spend 12 years in a hotel room as part of my job. I don't go to the bar/restaurant/pool naked, but I will be naked between my bed and the shower, and if there is a window in my room, chances are, you can see me.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:32 PM
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Sorry but if you expose yourself,get arrested then narrowly escape prosecution your not going to get a big settlement. This lawsuit is a look I’m innocent play by his attorney and will likely cost him money. My advice close your shades, behave normal and contribute to your 401k....

So are we to assume that "guilty until proven innocent" is how you operate? Shall we extend you the same courtesy in the future when you get arrested? Have you ever stayed in that hotel? "Narrowly escape prosecution.." Do you know something that the rest of the public does not? Care to elaborate on that one counselor?

The press is so wrong, so often, and about so many important details that I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. I think that his assuming that the windows were coated is a perfectly reasonable assumption given that the windows face into the terminal. Why didn't the cops arrest the peeping Tom?


https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ed/3177085002/

DENVER – A judge has dismissed an indecent exposure charge against a United Airlines pilot.

Carolyn Tyler, a spokeswoman for the Denver district attorney, said Friday that prosecutors decided to drop the case against Andrew Collins because there wasn’t a reasonable likelihood of conviction at trial.

Collins was arrested in September after being accused of standing naked in front of his 10th-floor hotel window overlooking the Denver International Airport terminal. He pleaded not guilty in December.

His attorney, Craig Silverman, said previously that it’s not a crime to be naked in a hotel room in Denver and that Collins didn’t know that people could see him when he partially opened the curtain

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Old 04-21-2019, 09:44 PM
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So are we to assume that "guilty until proven innocent" is how you operate? Shall we extend you the same courtesy in the future when you get arrested? Have you ever stayed in that hotel? "Narrowly escape prosecution.." Do you know something that the rest of the public does not? Care to elaborate on that one counselor?

The press is so wrong, so often, and about so many important details that I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. I think that his assuming that the windows were coated is a perfectly reasonable assumption given that the windows face into the terminal. Why didn't the cops arrest the peeping Tom?


https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ed/3177085002/

DENVER – A judge has dismissed an indecent exposure charge against a United Airlines pilot.

Carolyn Tyler, a spokeswoman for the Denver district attorney, said Friday that prosecutors decided to drop the case against Andrew Collins because there wasn’t a reasonable likelihood of conviction at trial.

Collins was arrested in September after being accused of standing naked in front of his 10th-floor hotel window overlooking the Denver International Airport terminal. He pleaded not guilty in December.

His attorney, Craig Silverman, said previously that it’s not a crime to be naked in a hotel room in Denver and that Collins didn’t know that people could see him when he partially opened the curtain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_Angry_Men_(1957_film)
My real concern is he isn’t asking for enough money, maybe 3 or 4 million would be a better amount for showing the great judgement of parading yourself naked in front of an airport terminal.....
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin View Post
My real concern is he isn’t asking for enough money, maybe 3 or 4 million would be a better amount for showing the great judgement of parading yourself naked in front of an airport terminal.....
Of course you know that if a settlement is reached it won't be based on Collin's judgement but rather on others involved. The real issues of expectation of privacy and due process concern all of us.

Don't let that get in the way of your slams.
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Old 11-11-2019, 03:09 PM
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https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/denver-pays-300000-to-pilot-wrongfully-arrested-for-being-naked-in-dia-hotel/73-fe05122f-9718-4fe9-8789-f2bd1903e834

Captain Andrew Collins, a pilot with United Airlines, was arrested for indecent exposure at DIA’s hotel in September 2018.
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DENVER — Last month, Denver quietly paid an airline pilot $300,000 to settle his allegation that city police officers violated his civil rights before arresting him on an indecent exposure charge after he was seen standing naked in front of his hotel room window.
The payment came from a Denver International Airport insurance policy and bypassed the scrutiny of City Council, which normally must sign off on settlements of $5,000 or more when they are paid out of the city’s liability fund. And it came seven months after a judge dismissed the criminal charge against Andy Collins, a United Airlines pilot who spent two days in the Denver city jail after his arrest Sept. 20, 2018.

“It is not a crime to be naked in Denver, even if you are a man – and especially if you are in the privacy of your own hotel room,” said Craig Silverman, the pilot’s attorney. “Andy Collins was engaged in a phone call, he had no idea that anybody was looking at him, and it’s a shame that he got arrested the way he did.”

Silverman argued that police officers had no probable cause and no warrant to enter Collins’ room on the 10th floor of the Westin Denver International Airport nor to search his hotel room. According to body camera footage obtained by 9Wants to Know, the officers failed to read Collins a Miranda warning and questioned him after handcuffing him.
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Old 11-16-2019, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin View Post
Sorry but if you expose yourself,get arrested then narrowly escape prosecution your not going to get a big settlement. This lawsuit is a look I’m innocent play by his attorney and will likely cost him money. My advice close your shades, behave normal and contribute to your 401k....
And..... Andy got paid! The Westin is likely next. 💰 💰 💰 😎
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin View Post
Sorry but if you expose yourself,get arrested then narrowly escape prosecution your not going to get a big settlement. This lawsuit is a look I’m innocent play by his attorney and will likely cost him money. My advice close your shades, behave normal and contribute to your 401k....
I wonder if it had been your 4th Amendment rights that had been trampled and then publicly embarrassed in the national media, if you’d be so cavalier or victim blaming.
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