Glasgow: alcohol. Again?
08-04-2019, 07:11 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by oldmako
The number of times that pilots have been hauled off planes and arrested, or at least made the headlines and THEN were released and exonerated is significant. I'd prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt before assuming that the press got this one right.
08-04-2019, 07:35 AM
#12
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“Glasgow clearance... United 123... clearance to Newark with Wiskey.”
Bloody Hell! In the name of the wee man... Not again!! 😄
Too soon??
Bloody Hell! In the name of the wee man... Not again!! 😄
Too soon??
08-04-2019, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bamike
Not a 121 pilot but I’m curious, why not just call in sick or fatigued if you’ve been drinking. Is there any reason they took the risk of showing up to the airport and getting caught?
You are making it sound like they got food poisoning which is beyond anyones control and would justify a sick call, but drinking alcohol is a choice.
08-04-2019, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
Try some self control.
You are making it sound like they got food poisoning which is beyond anyones control and would justify a sick call, but drinking alcohol is a choice.
You are making it sound like they got food poisoning which is beyond anyones control and would justify a sick call, but drinking alcohol is a choice.
It is easier than you think to screw that up on a Europe trip due to the time zones and layovers. I got to where I’d just not have any drinks on many Europe layovers and if you do you’ve really got to watch the time and moderate your intake.
08-04-2019, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
The FAA had already eased up on SSRI’s before GermanWings.
08-04-2019, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin
One standard drink (which is considered any drink containing 14 grams of alcohol) will increase your BAC by a maximum of 0.02, based on your body size, gender, and other factors. Within about an hour, your blood alcohol concentration would be at almost zero. The problem usually comes when you drink at a faster rate or otherwise drink several alcoholic drinks at once (like taking several shots). Your liver cannot process alcohol that quickly, causing it to accumulate in your blood and leading to a higher BAC. For the average person, it only takes about three or four drinks in one hour to reach a BAC of 0.08.
“Given the general rule, if your blood alcohol content is at the limit of 0.08, it would go down to 0.065 after one hour. It would take roughly five hours and twenty minutes for your body to completely metabolize the alcohol and eliminate it from the body. That’s also why it can be dangerous to drink too late into the night. If you have a high enough BAC, you may still actually be drunk when you wake up, which can still be a real problem if you have to drive to work. Those who have been binge drinking can have alcohol in their systems for over 10 hours.
Breathalyzers can detect alcohol within 15 minutes of your first drink and can continue for as long as the alcohol is in your system. Coffee, cold showers, and “sleeping it off” will not sober you up”
“Given the general rule, if your blood alcohol content is at the limit of 0.08, it would go down to 0.065 after one hour. It would take roughly five hours and twenty minutes for your body to completely metabolize the alcohol and eliminate it from the body. That’s also why it can be dangerous to drink too late into the night. If you have a high enough BAC, you may still actually be drunk when you wake up, which can still be a real problem if you have to drive to work. Those who have been binge drinking can have alcohol in their systems for over 10 hours.
Breathalyzers can detect alcohol within 15 minutes of your first drink and can continue for as long as the alcohol is in your system. Coffee, cold showers, and “sleeping it off” will not sober you up”
08-04-2019, 10:19 AM
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Think FAR and FOM should be 12hrs....Of course the small, small % that violate the rules now probably would continue.
08-04-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
Great analysis! I especially liked how you discussed the effects of alcohol on an average person. After taking a DNA test, I know that my body metabolizes alcohol slowly. It’s an important point and most important to know yourself.
That was a cut and paste, I meant to link the source. I can’t take credit for writing that. But thanks lol
08-04-2019, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jtbost
Guys. As a retired United and former flyer of this very route, please remember that the standard in Scotland is 0% blood/alcohol. You really have to know your own body as you can cut off well within the United rules and still blow above zero. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt until more info surfaces.
08-04-2019, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/pilots-arrested-glasgow-airport-before-16695014
Just saw this.
Just saw this.
Don’t drink more than one beer or a glass of wine with your meal
Problem solved
On your days off do as you please
It is that simple
Last week or two was a delta guy before a year or 2 an American guy
Just be smart, don’t give away a 250k job yearly for it
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