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Old 10-23-2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
We have a 23 year old flying out of EWR. Turned 23 in JAN and was hired in Feb. Spends 19 years under 1000 and 6 years @ #1. You will never figure out how they hire.
Really? So for this to be true there are currently no pilots senior to him under the age of 29.. find that hard to believe.
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Old 10-23-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
One of my close friends finally got an interview for United. His qualifications are 12,000+ flight time, check airman, former chief check airman, and an APD. He only has turbo-prop time though.
And we hired a 23 year old. No way does that kid have anything remotely what this guy has.

You gotta be kididng me.........a 23 year old... You sure he wasn't hired at Mesa or something? Who was his mommy/daddy? So much for paying your dues.
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Old 10-23-2019 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Triumph
There’s about a 99.9% chance that person was an intern.


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That's nice and all, but lets make sure those interns get an opportunity to pay their dues and earn their way in.
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Old 10-23-2019 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AviatorAl04
So competitive minimums besides a 4 years degree aside from jumpseat issues? I don’t work at a regional, but one of those lower cost carriers.

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2500 to 5000 hours is real good.
i think check airman and evaluator set you apart.
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Old 10-23-2019 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
Really? So for this to be true there are currently no pilots senior to him under the age of 29.. find that hard to believe.
Shhhhhh, he's got a family bible ready to go. That 6 year figure will have an asterisk bedside it.
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Old 10-23-2019 | 12:09 PM
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When I got hired by United, (umpty-mumble years ago) there was a 22 year old pilot in the class. He was well qualified, and had an FAA letter that he could exchange for the ATP certificate on his 23rd birthday.

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Old 10-23-2019 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot
When I got hired by United, (umpty-mumble years ago) there was a 22 year old pilot in the class. He was well qualified, and had an FAA letter that he could exchange for the ATP certificate on his 23rd birthday.

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What is well qualified Joe?
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Old 10-23-2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
I have heard through the grapevine that roughly between 5500-6500 hours (civilian) is the average flight time. Four year degree and having done other things outside of being a straight line pilot (i.e. Check Airman, Instructor, Union Work, etc.).
That is pretty spot on. Check Airman is a big one. Been that way at UAL since the 90's ......yup I am getting old!
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Old 10-24-2019 | 06:44 AM
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EWR FO born 1996

Hey I don't blame them. They applied got called and were hired. I do not believe this person was an intern. It is what it is.

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And we hired a 23 year old. No way does that kid have anything remotely what this guy has.

You gotta be kididng me.........a 23 year old... You sure he wasn't hired at Mesa or something? Who was his mommy/daddy? So much for paying your dues.
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Old 10-24-2019 | 10:09 AM
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At the end of the day.. there is just no reason to hire someone under 25.. who has not slugged it out in the left seat of an RJ, or in some sort of business jet.. where THEY were the ones in charge and had to make the big decisions.

It might be great that handfuls of pilots are getting in without ever upgrading at the Express Carrier, but it's not fair or right for all those out there who are doing it the way it was suppose to be done.
Not to mention, I do believe that we're setting ourselves up for failure in the future.

Sure, the training department is top notch.. they WILL go to the max (LOL) to help our new pilots out.
But at the end of the day.. even the best pilots have bad days.
What will happen some day when we find ourselves putting 2-3 yr pilots in the left seat with brand new hires in the right.. and stuff starts to come undone.

Absolutely nothing wrong with working for an express carrier for 3-5 years and then making the leap over to the Majors.

Seems like we're starting to see NewHires being able to hold WB (triple and Sparky). So we're gonna put new pilots on a plane were they will barely fly.. may have to go back to the sim for landings.. and some of these same pilots could be the ones hired in the early twentys with low time/low experience.
Just don't see it working out well in the long run.

My .02 cents

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