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John Carr 12-06-2019 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Redbird611 (Post 2934958)
It clearly wasn’t an English degree.

prevents a sense of humor...

Carry on, as you were.

Operation Dumbo 12-08-2019 04:00 AM

Yes I do have a bachelors degree

OceanCrosser 12-08-2019 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2935060)
prevents a sense of humor...

Carry on, as you were.

Did you notice the widget B737 icon... that should explain the humor part! Sometimes these guys take themselves too serious!

Stay warm,

OC

Operation Dumbo 12-08-2019 04:21 AM

Thank you everyone for your input....It is not going to be easy to make a decision, I think I will have to line up all the pros and cons and make a decision...

cadetdrivr 12-08-2019 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Operation Dumbo (Post 2935462)
Thank you everyone for your input....It is not going to be easy to make a decision, I think I will have to line up all the pros and cons and make a decision...

Even if you are able to 'decide' now, the real V1 won't have to come until once you have a CJO in hand.

Sniper66 12-10-2019 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Operation Dumbo (Post 2935462)
Thank you everyone for your input....It is not going to be easy to make a decision, I think I will have to line up all the pros and cons and make a decision...



Very competitive so you know
Once you get the job is a no brainer situation


Best of luck

Extenda 12-10-2019 10:43 AM

Emirates 777 captain was in the class behind me at Delta. With profit sharing he calculated he would break even second year.

Winston 12-10-2019 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 2936563)
Emirates 777 captain was in the class behind me at Delta. With profit sharing he calculated he would break even second year.

I find that hard to believe considering that my second year (which was under our current contract extension) I broke even with my previous RJ LCA pay.

* Unless Emirates is paying WAAAY less than I was led to believe.

horrido27 12-10-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2936578)
I find that hard to believe considering that my second year (which was under our current contract extension) I broke even with my previous RJ LCA pay.

* Unless Emirates is paying WAAAY less than I was led to believe.

Always find these statements interesting.
So, just to be sure we understand you-
As as RJ LCA you made more combined compensation than at United on 2nd year pay.

That would include, 16% BFund.. a profit sharing check worth an additional 5ish%, and higher per diem?
Not to mention, what were your medical costs at your regional?
Lastly.. and THIS is the most important part of the equation-
How many flight hours did you have vs. how many credit hours?

Do most new hire pilots take a pay cut on year one here at United.. probably.
But you're not coming here for year 1 outlook.
For most... yr 2 is a wash or probably an increase in TOTAL compensation.

You're coming here cause there is no doubt that a 10/15/20/25+ yr career at any of the top 3 majors, the 2 major cargo carriers and a few of the "others" will net you a higher gross income, better Quality of Life and a better retirement.

If you decide to make the jump AND get a CJO here at United.. Welcome!
If not, all the best at your current employer.

Motch

Winston 12-10-2019 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2936646)
Always find these statements interesting.
So, just to be sure we understand you-
As as RJ LCA you made more combined compensation than at United on 2nd year pay.

That would include, 16% BFund.. a profit sharing check worth an additional 5ish%, and higher per diem?
Not to mention, what were your medical costs at your regional?
Lastly.. and THIS is the most important part of the equation-
How many flight hours did you have vs. how many credit hours?

You’re making this way more complicated than I had intended, so I’ll just throw out hard numbers: my last full year as an RJ LCA (which was my 12th), my last pay stub showed that I made $147k. When I came to United I took a pay cut my first year, made about the same as when I left during my second year, and it’s all been in the plus column since.

You’re absolutely correct that I had to work my butt off at the regional, doing IOE every leg, four legs a day, four days a week, for YEARS on end. Now as a wide body FO I consider myself semi-retired, but that was not the subject in question: it was that an Emirates 777 Captain would have a similar financial experience that I had making the move. I doubt that is the case because I’m sure those guys make WAAAY more than $147k, regardless of workload.

I have no regrets making the move, in case you gathered that from my post. There is no other airline I’d rather be working at now than United, and I only wish that I had gotten here sooner.


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