Search

Notices

Debating Jumping Ship

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-05-2019 | 08:47 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default Debating Jumping Ship

Hello everyone,

So was wondering if I can get some info and advice about returning back to the United States.. Was living in the United States previously back in the early 2000 job prospects as a airline pilot was extremely low and when I graduated and finished flying school I was practically broke....opted to go overseas and was blessed with a good start flew the B737-CL as a start and then jumped to a Major international airline in the M.E flying the B777/787. I have more than 5000 jet time and I also have my FAA unrestricted ATPL with the B777 rating.... Hardly have any PIC time... how is it back there and what are my prospects and recommendations??
Reply
Old 12-05-2019 | 09:58 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,233
Likes: 66
Default

Biggest right off the bat question, do you have a bachelors degree?

Was it graduated from college what you’re referring to?
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 05:21 AM
  #3  
Airhoss's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 5,738
Likes: 5
From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Default

Originally Posted by John Carr
Was it graduated from college what you’re referring to?
I think you might have been Apple corrected to oblivion?
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 06:14 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: Guppy.
Default

Originally Posted by John Carr
Was it graduated from college what you’re referring to?
It was graduated from college that he not said but don't know.
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 08:17 AM
  #5  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 585
Likes: 48
From: 757/767
Default

Originally Posted by Operation Dumbo
Hello everyone,

So was wondering if I can get some info and advice about returning back to the United States.. Was living in the United States previously back in the early 2000 job prospects as a airline pilot was extremely low and when I graduated and finished flying school I was practically broke....opted to go overseas and was blessed with a good start flew the B737-CL as a start and then jumped to a Major international airline in the M.E flying the B777/787. I have more than 5000 jet time and I also have my FAA unrestricted ATPL with the B777 rating.... Hardly have any PIC time... how is it back there and what are my prospects and recommendations??
As someone who has made the jump I would think long and hard about exactly why you want to leave before making the move. Stateside you will have a union, more days off, a ridiculously easy training environment and a life outside of aviation. You are going to take a big hit on the amount of money that hits your bank account each month and I’m guessing you will be bored out of your mind (could be a welcome thing) for the first few years.

It’s going to be a challenge in many ways going from the left seat of a 777 to reserve in the right seat of a 737/320. Just from a monetary standpoint you are probably minus at least 9k per month after taxes for the next 7 years minimum. It’s a huge financial hit on the front end of your career. Then the monotony of domestic ops, hotels, FAs, commuting, etc.

Over the long term you will probably break even or be ahead. You will have a lot more time off and control of your life. You get to have a life outside of aviation again. But you will definitely miss a lot of things about your current job. Get used to the idea of economy or jumpseat for the rest of your career. Enjoy every moment of your current job and lifestyle while you can. My $.02.
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 08:51 AM
  #6  
APC225's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,866
Likes: 0
Default

Aside from the long term issues, you might have an advantage to get hired. Going your route shows without a doubt that you sincerely love to fly, want to fly, as first priority. Hiring folks like that. It’s also a very different story to tell other than the usual regional or military route. They might interview you just to break up the monotony.
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 01:21 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,544
Likes: 0
From: 175 CA
Default

Originally Posted by AAL24
As someone who has made the jump I would think long and hard about exactly why you want to leave before making the move. Stateside you will have a union, more days off, a ridiculously easy training environment and a life outside of aviation. You are going to take a big hit on the amount of money that hits your bank account each month and I’m guessing you will be bored out of your mind (could be a welcome thing) for the first few years.

It’s going to be a challenge in many ways going from the left seat of a 777 to reserve in the right seat of a 737/320. Just from a monetary standpoint you are probably minus at least 9k per month after taxes for the next 7 years minimum. It’s a huge financial hit on the front end of your career. Then the monotony of domestic ops, hotels, FAs, commuting, etc.

Over the long term you will probably break even or be ahead. You will have a lot more time off and control of your life. You get to have a life outside of aviation again. But you will definitely miss a lot of things about your current job. Get used to the idea of economy or jumpseat for the rest of your career. Enjoy every moment of your current job and lifestyle while you can. My $.02.
Said he has no pic so he’s not in left seat
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 02:35 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,233
Likes: 66
Default

Originally Posted by Airhoss
I think you might have been Apple corrected to oblivion?
Originally Posted by KonaJoe
It was graduated from college that he not said but don't know.
Graduate shoolz I did, make more monies diploma gets you.
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 03:22 PM
  #9  
Redbird611's Avatar
Line Holder
10 Years
30 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 557
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by John Carr
Graduate shoolz I did, make more monies diploma gets you.

It clearly wasn’t an English degree.
Reply
Old 12-06-2019 | 09:31 PM
  #10  
Banned
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,182
Likes: 0
From: Tom’s Whipping boy.
Default

Apply by all means..... if you really want to live in the states, at first anyway.

Don’t get hung up on reasons you might fail or give any credence to the naysayers. Just go for it.

Btw, one of the best First Officers I’ve flown with the last few years, does not have a degree. He has a mechanic license and was an Air Force flight engineer.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Poopchute701
Hawaiian
264
03-19-2019 07:32 PM
HossCo
Compass Airlines
4
04-16-2018 11:10 AM
sargeanb
Career Questions
36
06-06-2017 05:29 PM
jrutt
Hangar Talk
5
09-24-2009 11:54 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices