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Old 07-31-2022, 05:31 PM
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Not to mention, you don’t carry your seniority with you. Different CBA.
You keep flying seniority and vacation time is company time based.
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Old 07-31-2022, 06:12 PM
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You keep flying seniority and vacation time is company time based.
You keep flying seniority? What does that mean?
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Old 07-31-2022, 06:25 PM
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You keep flying seniority? What does that mean?
Nonrev seniority maybe?
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:46 PM
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Nonrev seniority maybe?
Unless there is some strange offering within the Aviate program that violates our UPA, people hired as a United Pilot who previously worked for United in another capacity have their longevity dates reset.
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Old 08-01-2022, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp View Post
Unless there is some strange offering within the Aviate program that violates our UPA, people hired as a United Pilot who previously worked for United in another capacity have their longevity dates reset.
Company and craft-trade seniority are different.
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Old 08-01-2022, 05:51 AM
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Company employees keep non rev seniority and will have vacation time based on company time. Bidding for airplane or base will be as if they were a new hire.
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Old 08-01-2022, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp View Post
Unless there is some strange offering within the Aviate program that violates our UPA, people hired as a United Pilot who previously worked for United in another capacity have their longevity dates reset.
Things may have changes in the last 30 years but it used to be that if you left United on a leave of absence, and returned in under 4 years (even if in a different position), you maintained your seniority for pass travel. And you got to bid 1st in your new hire pilot class, regardless of your SS#. If you were gone for over 4 years, you only got your old file# back.
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Old 08-01-2022, 06:52 AM
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Things may have changes in the last 30 years but it used to be that if you left United on a leave of absence, and returned in under 4 years (even if in a different position), you maintained your seniority for pass travel. And you got to bid 1st in your new hire pilot class, regardless of your SS#. If you were gone for over 4 years, you only got your old file# back.

I’m only referring to other positions within the company. Not taking a LOA from let’s say a gate agent to become a pilot later on. Yes, if you take a LOA in accordance with the UPA, which applies only to pilots you retain your seniority. The other poster claiming you keep non-rev seniority and vacation is not correct.
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Old 08-01-2022, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp View Post
I’m only referring to other positions within the company. Not taking a LOA from let’s say a gate agent to become a pilot later on. Yes, if you take a LOA in accordance with the UPA, which applies only to pilots you retain your seniority. The other poster claiming you keep non-rev seniority and vacation is not correct.
It’s a fact ! People have already transitioned from other positions to pilot and have more weeks of seniority than a new hire F/O
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Old 08-01-2022, 07:47 AM
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Who cares? They are likely a lot older than many new hire FOs as they wasted years in some mundane job here for lower pay. Let them have some vacation seniority or pass travel seniority. The jumpseat will always go by pilot seniority.
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